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Old Apr 3, 2015 | 10:39 AM
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360 vaccuum question.

I have a 1972 360 engine. I checked the vaccuum at the port at the distributor and no joy. I then checked it at the port on the base of the carb, no joy. The carb looks like it was replaced at some time as it seems too clean for a 42 year old carb. Is it possible that the yahoo that replaced the carb installed the gasket upside down covering the vaccuum port hole? Any ideas? Thanks...chris
 
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Old Apr 3, 2015 | 02:39 PM
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If the engine is idling, it has vacuum.
Are you sure the gauge is good? Suck on it.
You should put your gauge directly on the manifold, not on the port above the throttle plate. See if you have another plugged-off port on the bottom of the carb. Also, tell us what carburetor you have.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2015 | 02:43 PM
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Sounds like someone put the wrong gasket between the carb's base plate and it's body.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2015 | 02:46 PM
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If the distributor does not hold vacuum, then it has a blown diaphragm and cannot advance the timing.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2015 | 04:02 PM
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What are the symptoms? Does the thing run?
 
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Old Apr 3, 2015 | 06:51 PM
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Just for completeness/accuracy (future readers) note there won't be any vacuum at idle.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2015 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Tedster9
Just for completeness/accuracy (future readers) note there won't be any vacuum at idle.
On a manifold vacuum port there would be. But not on a "timed" vacuum port. I could be wrong but I thought 72 was before emissions ka-ka so therefore would have a manifold vacuum port on the Autolite 2V. Especially if OP has a Holley 2V.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2015 | 07:02 PM
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Timed or "spark" vacuum ports have been used since at least the 1930s long before emissions ever became a consideration, don't know how that idea got started. There's only one vacuum port on the 2V carbs? They are all above the throttle plate afaik. So no vacuum at idle.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2015 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Tedster9
Timed or "spark" vacuum ports have been used since the 1930s, I don't know how that idea got started. There's only one vacuum port on the 2V carbs?
Pretty sure there was Ted. That's why sometimes the was a carb spacer to isolate carb from heat and introduce a port out back for a booster. As I recall Ford didn't use a timed port until the EGR valves. Then later for smog pumps,dual diaphragm Dizzys,etc.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2015 | 07:15 PM
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Well, we don't know what carburetor is installed in this application or where it's hooked up. Didn't want to get this off into the weeds, but wanted to point out there may not be any vacuum at idle RPM. I do know a timed vacuum port predates smog era by decades, fwiw.
 
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Originally Posted by Tedster9
Well, we don't know what carburetor is installed in this application or where it's hooked up. Didn't want to get this off into the weeds, but wanted to point out there may not be any vacuum at idle RPM. I do know a timed vacuum port predates smog era by decades, fwiw.
No worries Buddy. Glad you did in case.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2015 | 07:26 PM
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The engine runs great. However, when I hit the gas there is a hesitation. That is why I figured the vaccuum advance was not working. I am an old time mechanic, early 60's, that is trying to remember the old engines. There is only one vaccuum port on the base of the carb. No ports on the manifold. After supper , I will look to see what carb is on the engine. I looked this morning but I can 't remember now.
 
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The engine runs great. However, when I hit the gas there is a hesitation. That is why I figured the vaccuum advance was not working. I am an old time mechanic, early 60's, that is trying to remember the old engines. There is only one vaccuum port on the base of the carb. No ports on the manifold. After supper , I will look to see what carb is on the engine. I looked this morning but I can 't remember now.
Check to make sure the accelerator pump nozzles are squirting fuel when pumping the throttle. The accelerator pump diaphragm prolly shot.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2015 | 08:05 PM
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The accelerator pump works ok. I get engine vaccuum when I increase the throttle. There is a plastic filter of some kind in the vaccuum line to the distributor. I get vaccuum to the filter but none through the filter. Clogged filter. I ran a new line direct to the distributor. The engine seems to accelerate better. I will have to wait until tomorrow to see if the vaccuum advance is indeed working. Thanks for your help. I haven't worked on a carb engine for 30 years and my memory is not what it used to be, I am 71.....chris
 
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I recommend applying a vacuum pump on that distributor to see if it holds vacuum and the advance mechanism is actuating.

Is that filter really a filter? Maybe it's a check valve?
 
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