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Old Apr 3, 2015 | 03:49 PM
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At this point there's no way I'm going to tear the motor apart just to find out. so I suppose it is what it is, I'm just going to drive it.
And that is what enjoying these old trucks is all about.

On the other hand.

I have posted what I think may be the answer for ND to decipher. The FE engine has such a storied and famous history that you may have a real valuable engine, and lots of us will drool over it.

But do above all enjoy it.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2015 | 03:49 PM
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ND: It sounds to me as though he is referring to C9ZE-6A360-A
If so, it's this:

C9ZZ-6359-A .. Harmonic Balancer Spacer-cast iron with counterweight / Stamped: C9ZE-6A360-A / Obsolete

Applications: 1969/70 Fairlane/Torino/Mustang/Cougar 428 S/CJ
 
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Old Apr 3, 2015 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
If this number is stamped on the harmonic balancer spacer, it cross references to Ford part number C9ZZ-6359-A = 1969/70 428 SCJ
I'll check tomorrow and see if I can get any numbers off the hatchet or the harmonic balancer and will post my findings
 
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Old Apr 3, 2015 | 03:56 PM
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Thanks

everyones help is greatly appreciated is there an easy way that I can post some pics
 
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Old Apr 3, 2015 | 04:07 PM
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The easiest way is to upload your pictures to a free photo hosting service (like Photobucket), then link to the picture in your FTE post.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2015 | 04:32 PM
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Looks like I will have to change my story!

Be careful here. You have uncovered one of Ford's greatest mysteries! 352s and 360s are indistinguishable on the outside from a 390. The plain and less than desirable 352s and 360s have an eerie and mystifying ability, a phenomenon not yet scientifically understood. They say there are unknown forces moving about in the vicinity of FE motors. You see, the night before sale day, these evil things, some impish, some brutish, all descend upon their intended victim - the FE doomed for sale! These forces know not the effect of the work that they do, nor can they explain how they do it, it is so dark and fearful a thing. Using powers utterly unknown to mankind, these ghouls of the garage perform a mighty transmogrification! YES! IT WORKS! And the lowly 352 and the shortchanged but stout little 360 are transmogrified into the RADIANT and MIGHTY 390! However, the effect wears off during the first night after the SALE is completed, and the transmogrified ones revert to their former dull selves. Of course their powers have only the 30-30 guarantee: 30 feet or 30 seconds, whichever comes first! Unfortunately, once you get it home your MIGHTY SUPER HERO 390 deflates to an underdog. ppptthhpphptphpptphpthphtpthh. ppth.
(Research to capture this process to make it permanent without having to rebuild the poor things is ongoing, but efforts to date have been fruitless. It is rumored that the Mechanics' Engine Rebuilders Cooperative "MERCs" has interfered with the testing laboratories, believing the discovery will cost jobs, but no proof is yet forthcoming. Details at 11.)
 
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Old Apr 3, 2015 | 04:37 PM
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Thats funny...
 
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Old Apr 3, 2015 | 05:15 PM
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if it's a FE series engine, and you have the "hatchet" counterweight, it's a 428 scj. 410's and 428's had the heavy balancer, but only the scj's got the hatchet.

a scj is a great motor, but it's not a boss 429 or a 427 sohc. there were thousands of scj's made in torino's, mustangs, cougars, fairlanes, ect. a great motor for your truck!
 
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Old Apr 3, 2015 | 05:16 PM
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Old Apr 3, 2015 | 08:38 PM
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Pics of the hatchet



 
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Old Apr 3, 2015 | 10:38 PM
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Ford went to the parts bin to make the 428 SCJ. "Le Mans" rods are as in the 24 Hours of Le Mans race in France, which Ford spent billion$ winning with the 427.

Motor history:

https://www.428cobrajet.org/428cj-history-bill-barr

Le Mans rods:

https://www.428cobrajet.org/id-connecting-rods

Congrats on your score. As per prior post, you may find someone willing to pay a pretty substantial premium for this motor.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2015 | 10:45 PM
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Interesting, and thanks for the links. Should be fun to drive when I get it on the road.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2015 | 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by pitdog0938
Interesting, and thanks for the links. Should be fun to drive when I get it on the road.
Nice Score!

The Vin is from a "R" code 1969 Mustang. "R" meaning 428 CJ/SCJ ram air

The lemans rods will have bolts vs studs and nuts.

The 428SCJ lemans rod will have a shorter head on bolt

The crankshaft will have 1UA on it

Does it have a carb and distributor? Exhaust manifolds?

If its an original SCJ all the ones I have seen have SUPER stamped on front of block above pan on drivers side.

If you check the registry that engine could be worth a bunch of $$ to original car if it can be found. Especially if its complete with exhaust, carb, distributor.

Does it have a windage tray? between oil pan and block?

What does it have for oil filter adapter?

I may have missed it but did it come with a flywheel? Stick or auto?

Looks like it has the wider SCJ balancer also
 
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Old Apr 19, 2015 | 11:45 PM
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I've been going on the externals of the engine to id it so far. It's a runner and in my truck so I haven't found the need to get inside it. The carb was replaced by the previous owner with an edelbrock and it has headers. Man this thing really snorts! I just did a tune up relacing the points /condensor cap rotor and so on. The dist. Looks to be original but not pos. The oil filter adapter is kind of different, the filter sticks out horizontally. I'll put pics of it tomorrow. I did however check the stroke using the dowel method suggested above in this thread and it is a hair shy of 4" I would love to pos. id this thing but I bought it to drive, and it's almost there...Oh it is an automatic by the way and I might have to pull the trans, seems to slip quit a bit. But I will be able to verify the C scratch. Mabe I'll drop the pan then dont really want to im really itchin to just cruise it. Thanks for the interest it's cool learning new thing about my cool old truck.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2015 | 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by pitdog0938
I've been going on the externals of the engine to id it so far. It's a runner and in my truck so I haven't found the need to get inside it. The carb was replaced by the previous owner with an edelbrock and it has headers. Man this thing really snorts! I just did a tune up relacing the points /condensor cap rotor and so on. The dist. Looks to be original but not pos. The oil filter adapter is kind of different, the filter sticks out horizontally. I'll put pics of it tomorrow. I did however check the stroke using the dowel method suggested above in this thread and it is a hair shy of 4" I would love to pos. id this thing but I bought it to drive, and it's almost there...Oh it is an automatic by the way and I might have to pull the trans, seems to slip quit a bit. But I will be able to verify the C scratch. Mabe I'll drop the pan then dont really want to im really itchin to just cruise it. Thanks for the interest it's cool learning new thing about my cool old truck.
Absolutely easy to identify with just a few pics whether in the truck or not.

The adapter on it is the truck version, the SCJ one is long gone . .

Post some more pics of engine.
 
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