Long bed VS short bed
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I think the reason this particular setup generated so much discussion is the manufacturer's stated pin weight is so light in comparison to the amount of squat and the model of the truck. Sometimes the manufacturer's stated pin weight is way off and it would be nice to know if that is it by running it across a scale to see what the pin is actually putting on the bed.
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I am glad to hear this is moving ahead and teh dealer is taking it seriously. I think it was puzzling for a number of us as given you set-up and your fiver, something just didn't seem right. Please keep us up to date on this as it progresses. 
Steve
Steve
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The comparison pictures told the whole story, I didn't have to explain much more than that. Thanks for your help! It's a Hotline case, so it shouldn't take long to get an answer. I'll keep you updated.
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Beings is you have a 15 they were supposedly changing all the 250's to the 4" block in 14. If it sags that much with a 4" block, wow. But who knows. I know I've seen low 14 f250s around here, and Ford will use up old stock on the line if its there.
I hope Ford comes up with a solution for you, other than you getting to put bags on it. Does it have the camper package (overloads)?
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Just had a load of 18' 2x6's from Menards... That would have really sucked with a SB...
In regards to Momma having to hike in from waaaaay out in the parking lot - most of the time I drop her off and pick her up at the door.. Makes her feel special...
In regards to Momma having to hike in from waaaaay out in the parking lot - most of the time I drop her off and pick her up at the door.. Makes her feel special...
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Beings is you have a 15 they were supposedly changing all the 250's to the 4" block in 14. If it sags that much with a 4" block, wow. But who knows. I know I've seen low 14 f250s around here, and Ford will use up old stock on the line if its there.
I hope Ford comes up with a solution for you, other than you getting to put bags on it. Does it have the camper package (overloads)?
I hope Ford comes up with a solution for you, other than you getting to put bags on it. Does it have the camper package (overloads)?
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Good listener,
My 2012 which is an extended cab/ long bed 4x4 like yours would sag after putting weight in the bed. I bought off the dealers lot so didn't order it the way I would have normally. This one has the plow package which has stronger front springs on it so when there is weight in it it seem to amplify the sag. After reading many post and doing some homework I put Stableloads on by Torklift ( Truck Camper Suspension - truck sway - truck sag - reduce camper roll | StableLoad ). They have taken care of the sag completely, since putting them on I have carried more weight in the truck than originally when first purchased with everyone flashing their lights at me thinking the high beams where on. The sag in your pic is what my truck would look like with a load in the bed. Just a thought and it's a simple add on that can be done by yourself.
My 2012 which is an extended cab/ long bed 4x4 like yours would sag after putting weight in the bed. I bought off the dealers lot so didn't order it the way I would have normally. This one has the plow package which has stronger front springs on it so when there is weight in it it seem to amplify the sag. After reading many post and doing some homework I put Stableloads on by Torklift ( Truck Camper Suspension - truck sway - truck sag - reduce camper roll | StableLoad ). They have taken care of the sag completely, since putting them on I have carried more weight in the truck than originally when first purchased with everyone flashing their lights at me thinking the high beams where on. The sag in your pic is what my truck would look like with a load in the bed. Just a thought and it's a simple add on that can be done by yourself.
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Good listener,
My 2012 which is an extended cab/ long bed 4x4 like yours would sag after putting weight in the bed. I bought off the dealers lot so didn't order it the way I would have normally. This one has the plow package which has stronger front springs on it so when there is weight in it it seem to amplify the sag. After reading many post and doing some homework I put Stableloads on by Torklift ( Truck Camper Suspension - truck sway - truck sag - reduce camper roll | StableLoad ). They have taken care of the sag completely, since putting them on I have carried more weight in the truck than originally when first purchased with everyone flashing their lights at me thinking the high beams where on. The sag in your pic is what my truck would look like with a load in the bed. Just a thought and it's a simple add on that can be done by yourself.
My 2012 which is an extended cab/ long bed 4x4 like yours would sag after putting weight in the bed. I bought off the dealers lot so didn't order it the way I would have normally. This one has the plow package which has stronger front springs on it so when there is weight in it it seem to amplify the sag. After reading many post and doing some homework I put Stableloads on by Torklift ( Truck Camper Suspension - truck sway - truck sag - reduce camper roll | StableLoad ). They have taken care of the sag completely, since putting them on I have carried more weight in the truck than originally when first purchased with everyone flashing their lights at me thinking the high beams where on. The sag in your pic is what my truck would look like with a load in the bed. Just a thought and it's a simple add on that can be done by yourself.
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This discussion interests me because I would never expect a 250 to sag so much with such a light pin. I know on older 250 in which I installed travel trailer hitches and put at least that much weigh behind the bumper, the sag before putting on the distribution bars was only about a half inch. Not a direct comparison I know, but jeez, this is a really light pin weight.
I know that pin weight on my 02 F350 dosen't even come close to touching the overload springs.
I hope there is something wrong with this truck and Ford doesn't come back saying "they all do that" as that would mean to me the springs will need help whenever a fiver is tagging along behind.
I know that pin weight on my 02 F350 dosen't even come close to touching the overload springs.
I hope there is something wrong with this truck and Ford doesn't come back saying "they all do that" as that would mean to me the springs will need help whenever a fiver is tagging along behind.
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Service update : The truck is scheduled to go into the service department next Tuesday for at least three days. Engineering has given them a specific list of tests and measurements to be conducted (50 or more). Based on the results, they have a list of repairs/adjustments to be made. I expressed concern about a problem with my hitch height if any changes were made to the bed height. I was told that when the job was done, the truck would be at original specification. Any deviation from oem standards can effect things like handling, braking, crash performance, and fuel economy. Even headlight aiming was mentioned. Stay tuned and I will keep you updated as to what is found and done.
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It is very quiet compared to the 6.0 that we still have. It handles amazingly well even because it is very long. We have to rearrange our garage so it will fit inside.