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Old 03-22-2015, 04:05 PM
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What is an 8.2 Detroit? Is that like a V6 53?
I hate when metric is used. I am American.
Are you familiar with the early Chevy 350 conversion diesels? Same turd, just bigger!
 
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Are you familiar with the early Chevy 350 conversion diesels? Same turd, just bigger!
Yes, they was boat anchors for sure. There was another GM turd
back then or a little sooner. I think Olds maybe. It would run on
4, 6 or 8 cylinders depending on how hard it was pulling. Even when new
this was a turd. Was it Olds? And maybe Caddy? I will admit I like the
2 stroke Detroit's. They where fun to run. We would say that you
needed to slam your hand in the door when getting in it. Than drive
her like ya hated it all day. Ya could shift and drive it like a race car
all day. I love a 318 with a 5 and a 4. Oh what fun it was. All ya had
to do to keep up with the big boys was to just keep it mashed to the
wall. And shift the Brownie like a mad man. Never let up.
 
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Originally Posted by arctic y block
Well the Detroit's I know would be the 53, 71 and 92 series.
Is this any of them? Anything from an inline 4 cyl to a V8.
Rich, the 8.2 detroit, otherwise known as the "fuel pincher" was a turd of a 4 stroke naturally aspirated V8 that got great fuel mileage, but did not have the power to pull your hat off your head in hurricane force winds.
165 hp at 3000 rpm's.
they were detroits first 4 stroke, and were made from around 1980 to 1986.
by the time they ended production they had turbocharged the engine for more power, but they still only made around 320 hp with the turbo.
they also had injector problems due to the low fuel use design of the engine.

about the only good thing about them is they ran forever, but it also took you forever to get anywhere with one as a powerplant.
 
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Originally Posted by tjc transport
Rich, the 8.2 detroit, otherwise known as the "fuel pincher" was a turd of a 4 stroke naturally aspirated V8 that got great fuel mileage, but did not have the power to pull your hat off your head in hurricane force winds.
165 hp at 3000 rpm's.
they were detroits first 4 stroke, and were made from around 1980 to 1986.
by the time they ended production they had turbocharged the engine for more power, but they still only made around 320 hp with the turbo.
they also had injector problems due to the low fuel use design of the engine.

about the only good thing about them is they ran forever, but it also took you forever to get anywhere with one as a powerplant.
And the injectors would be stuck every time.
 
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Old 03-25-2015, 06:22 PM
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Biggest problem with the 8.2L was head gaskets, particularly the turbo'ed versions. That engine had an open deck block, cooling passages were open to the deck. Not much surface for the head gasket to grip. Non turbo 8.2L's didn't give too much trouble, but the turbo versions over 190 h.p. would pop head gaskets frequently. The injectors were very similar to the unit type the 2 stokes used. I heard at the time Detroit designed the engine for Ford. It was probably most commonly seen in F and C series trucks, though GM did offer it in medium duty C series trucks during the 80's.
 
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I would think that 320 turbo HP at 3100 revs would git
down the road pretty good in a single axle delivery truck.
Not so much pulling a container full. But for a delivery truck
that aint bad. What is the Cat 3208 in comparison to it? In my
head that is all I have to compare it to.
 
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a 3208 will run circles around a fuel pincher.
 
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Originally Posted by tjc transport
a 3208 will run circles around a fuel pincher.

WoW!!! Really??? That sure as hell ain't saying much for the
Detroit.

Edit: Ford used the crap out of Cat back in the day from what I just Googled.

275 HP to 435 HP. I must have had the pony engine in the grid roller
and rock crushers I was around. The C600 garbage skow I ran seemed
to do okay though. No Idea what HP it was but it was turboed.
 
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The 8.2 that was in my truck ran great it just couldn't rip it's way out of a wet paper bag let alone climb the mountains out her in Utah
 
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Originally Posted by arctic y block
Yes, they was boat anchors for sure. There was another GM turd
back then or a little sooner. I think Olds maybe. It would run on
4, 6 or 8 cylinders depending on how hard it was pulling. Even when new
this was a turd. Was it Olds? And maybe Caddy?

I read up on it a while back it was produced by olds, was diesel and really just fell on its face
 
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Originally Posted by 85F350IDI
I read up on it a while back it was produced by olds, was diesel and really just fell on its face

The "Olds Diesel" was based on the Olds 350 but was a different block, crank etc. The details follow. 30 mpg under the right circumstances but otherwise a failure for reasons given here:

350 Olds Diesel | 5.7L Oldsmobile Diesel Specs & History

The "V8-6-4" is unrelated. It was a Cadillac gas engine and the valve workings and controls were developed by Eaton. I had read at one time that Ford had rejected this system. The computer controls were too slow, the fuel injection not sophisticated enough, and a host of other issues caused it to be a very short-lived engine system.

Current mds systems bear little resemblence to the clunky V8-6-4 system.
 
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Originally Posted by 85e150six4mtod
That's a great read. Thanks, I enjoyed it.
 
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Hi CornwellToolMan - I was wondering if you can help me out. I've recently bought a C600 and am trying to figure out what chassis options I have for putting the cab on (I'm in the UK, truck is in the US, so I'll just be bringing the cab over here). Next time you're with your truck, could you possibly give me the width, height and length of the cab only please?

thanks in advance if you can help - will be following the progress on your truck with interest.

take it easy
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sorry - double post
 
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Originally Posted by 85e150six4mtod
[url=http://www.dieselhub.com/idi/olds-diesel.html]350 Olds Diesel | 5.7L Oldsmobile Diesel Specs & History[/url
That's exactly the article I read hah!
 


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