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Old Jul 22, 2015 | 02:30 PM
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ok agreed,but checking most other kits(beefed up) that come with bolts they are using grade 8 bolts @ 1/2 the cost @ bolt depot. and may be available locally without waiting 3-6 days.
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Originally Posted by dennismsaunders
ok agreed,but checking most other kits(beefed up) that come with bolts they are using grade 8 bolts @ 1/2 the cost @ bolt depot. and may be available locally without waiting 3-6 days.
Well it's your call, but for me I would go with the same grade the OEM ones are. The extra cost and wait time would give me many nights of peaceful sleep. But that's me.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 07:30 AM
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agree

but I also agree with the post as to why the use cheep thin metal then use a bolt capable of holding up a tank or air craft
 
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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by dennismsaunders
but I also agree with the post as to why the use cheep thin metal then use a bolt capable of holding up a tank or air craft
It's not that simple. You have to take into account things like pot hole impact, hovering over 120 degree asphalt then snow and ice. The higher grade bolts are torqued much tighter to help eliminate these shifts in the metals or the potential to shear the bolt in half.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 10:55 AM
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A lower grade bolt might also be more susceptible to metal fatigue over time, so I wouldn't risk using a lower grade bolt on something as important as control arms. Wait the extra few days and spend the extra bucks and get the correct bolts.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 03:37 PM
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days for a bolt looking local now n getting metalergys advice

the bars are rusted and broken now and the bolts survived why didn't they make the bars out or this steel,a broken bolt would be the same situation
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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by dennismsaunders
the bars are rusted and broken now and the bolts survived why didn't they make the bars out or this steel
We've been asking that same question for 10-years now.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2015 | 07:17 AM
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got started

jacked up and drive shaft and rear end fell back into line phuu what a relief
quick question the 21mm bolt by the gas tank how do I hold the nut?can get a socket on it but there's less then 1/2"left and I cant get a ratchet on it to hold it?any thoughts,thought I would put a box wrench on it and let it spin till it jams' on something , but of chore my 21mm box is missing (dang kids)!
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Old Jul 24, 2015 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by dennismsaunders
thought I would put a box wrench on it and let it spin till it jams' on something
That's what I did with a large open end adjustable wrench.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2015 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by dennismsaunders
...thought I would put a box wrench on it and let it spin till it jams' on something...

Box end goes on the bolt, steel cheater pipe goes over the wrench, pipe goes to the garage floor, torque wrench goes on the nut, super human strength goes on the torque wrench.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2015 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by BAD RONALD
Box end goes on the bolt, steel cheater pipe goes over the wrench, pipe goes to the garage floor, torque wrench goes on the nut, super human strength goes on the torque wrench.
O-r-r-r-r-r-r-r...you use impact tools while sipping on a cool and refreshing beverage!
 
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Old Jul 27, 2015 | 01:27 PM
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impact wouldnt even breakem loose

so had to get some muscle help to get em off, but all in all came together just like you guys said, coma long and jack under rear, done 2.5 hrs
thank u guys soo much, cant belief it didn't tear up u joints or air bags


now on to the dreaded heater core the carx shop wants 1200$ to change!phu
 
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Old Jul 27, 2015 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by dennismsaunders
cant belief it didn't tear up u joints or air bags
Don't sound so disappointed.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2015 | 07:17 AM
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disappointed

2000 $$$ for a heater core(did have adrip on the floor ) the part cost 50 $ haven't found the post on the procedure and read yet ,but im told the whole dash and 50 otherthings have to come apart ya im disappointed, hope I can handle it, just love the size handling comfort if I had heat ,
thank u sounds like ur enjoying an adult beverage now or just have a bunch of money sitting around to fix ur truck either way
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Old Jul 28, 2015 | 01:25 PM
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In the same boat here for the evaporator core on a 05, the dash has to come out and the HVAC unit has to be opened up, so its a project, but its not hard from what I can see. Just takes time and its tedious, keep removing screws and unclip stuff until the thing is out is basically it. I think the only special tool you need is the one for the quick connects on the coolant lines, or in my case, AC lines..
 
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