Return of the Bendix
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Surely the tedium level rises as I torture you guys with my little bendix dilemmae... but there you are. The picture tells us many things. Americans (Canadians, Brazilians, Germans and now Brits) who have the answer won't need much explanation. The Question. How does one move the sprung end (arrows) aft the amount required to clear the pin that holds the bendix to the motor shaft? Is the answer muscle? or like the broken one pictured... does one shove a wedge in there and pry back? (doesnt seem likely).
On a happier note you will see the bit of 2ga cable manufactured here at Himmelberg World Headquarters following George's excellent advise. Cost me $1.70, George. Barbara tells me I owe you a Class A meal, next time I see you. Best. Himmelberg
On a happier note you will see the bit of 2ga cable manufactured here at Himmelberg World Headquarters following George's excellent advise. Cost me $1.70, George. Barbara tells me I owe you a Class A meal, next time I see you. Best. Himmelberg
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Himmelberg,
I messed with a 272 starter not very long ago that used a Bendix almost like yours. The difference was that at the end (the side that doesn't have the gear) it had a spring, and yours look solid. On mine, you had to push the spring in, so that it would clear the hole to slide the pin in, and when you released the spring, it would cover the hole, not allowing the pin to fall off. I don't know about yours, but I guess it should be the same thing... I've never seen one like yours....
I'll see if I can get mine out of the truck tomorrow and get you some pictures, if you want...
Best Regards,
Lobo
I messed with a 272 starter not very long ago that used a Bendix almost like yours. The difference was that at the end (the side that doesn't have the gear) it had a spring, and yours look solid. On mine, you had to push the spring in, so that it would clear the hole to slide the pin in, and when you released the spring, it would cover the hole, not allowing the pin to fall off. I don't know about yours, but I guess it should be the same thing... I've never seen one like yours....
I'll see if I can get mine out of the truck tomorrow and get you some pictures, if you want...
Best Regards,
Lobo
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Mine is just like yours, Lobo... except the spring has that metal cover. I can't seem to compress the spring back that little bit. I forced the old one back with a screwdriver to remove it from the shaft. Don't want to mess up the new one... they're hard to come by in the desert. Thanks. Himmelberg
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Hi Himmelberg, 
If that bendix is from a '60 starter, you most likely have what Ford refered to as the "Folo-thru" drive.
It says in my shop manual......
"CAUTION:
The folo-thru drive has a lock pin which holds the pinion from rotating when it is in the extended position. Once the pin has dropped into place, it will not disengage unless the starter is mounted on the car and the engine speed reaches 310-390 rpm. It cannot be forced out of position by hand."
I hope this is of some help.
If that bendix is from a '60 starter, you most likely have what Ford refered to as the "Folo-thru" drive.
It says in my shop manual......
"CAUTION:
The folo-thru drive has a lock pin which holds the pinion from rotating when it is in the extended position. Once the pin has dropped into place, it will not disengage unless the starter is mounted on the car and the engine speed reaches 310-390 rpm. It cannot be forced out of position by hand."
I hope this is of some help.
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Himmel,
I replaced the starter on my 55 a few months ago. In a short answer, you have to compress the spring to get the pin out. In my case, being somewhat larger than the average bear, I I put the starter on the floor with the bendix in the up position and simply used my body weight, muscle and just grunted it out. It was a bit of a battle but after several expletives deleted and calling it a communist, it came out. assembly was about the sam e with much crying, gnashinf of teeth and sitting in sackcloth and ashes.
Best advice, the spring on the bendix can and will pinch your finger. Don't wail on it with a BFH.
Best of luck
Steve
I replaced the starter on my 55 a few months ago. In a short answer, you have to compress the spring to get the pin out. In my case, being somewhat larger than the average bear, I I put the starter on the floor with the bendix in the up position and simply used my body weight, muscle and just grunted it out. It was a bit of a battle but after several expletives deleted and calling it a communist, it came out. assembly was about the sam e with much crying, gnashinf of teeth and sitting in sackcloth and ashes.
Best advice, the spring on the bendix can and will pinch your finger. Don't wail on it with a BFH.
Best of luck
Steve
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Excellent pic, Kenny... They are the same but for a cover on mine which is over the spring. In any case, compressing the spring pulls the anchor plate back from the hole where the drive pin goes.
Looks like I'm going to have to really muscle that spring into its compressed position.
BARBARA! Barbara... can you come in here for a sec?
Thanks. Himmelberg
Looks like I'm going to have to really muscle that spring into its compressed position.
BARBARA! Barbara... can you come in here for a sec?
Thanks. Himmelberg
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Steve, looks like you slipped the answer in while I was doctoring Kenny's pic. Body weight and muscle, hmmmm....
To remove the bad one I could slip the screwdriver between the cover (not in pic) and the anchor plate. This pulls things back enough to tap out the drive pin. My fear is that the screwdriver might put a fatal flaw in the spring cover... necessitating a "re-do" Thanks. Himmelberg
To remove the bad one I could slip the screwdriver between the cover (not in pic) and the anchor plate. This pulls things back enough to tap out the drive pin. My fear is that the screwdriver might put a fatal flaw in the spring cover... necessitating a "re-do" Thanks. Himmelberg
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Peter,
can you rent a small spring compressor or maybe try a c clamp to get it off? It had a decent amount of tension on it but a little elbow grease and using leverage worked. If using the screw driver just be careful that it doesn't slip and cause you to get pinched. I'll bet the average human could chunk that bendix just far enough to get lost if it pinches you.
Good luck
Steve
can you rent a small spring compressor or maybe try a c clamp to get it off? It had a decent amount of tension on it but a little elbow grease and using leverage worked. If using the screw driver just be careful that it doesn't slip and cause you to get pinched. I'll bet the average human could chunk that bendix just far enough to get lost if it pinches you.
Good luck
Steve
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Himmelberg,
Sorry about that. I guess I misunderstood. I thought you were trying to free up the Anti drift pin to move the other end.
Thanks, your edited picture cleared it up for me. I got my fingers crossed for you on compressing that spring.
Sorry about that. I guess I misunderstood. I thought you were trying to free up the Anti drift pin to move the other end.
Thanks, your edited picture cleared it up for me. I got my fingers crossed for you on compressing that spring.
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Prototype spring compressor is under construction.... Easy to miss the point, Kenny, from my sketchy explanation. Sorry. Haven't got the bulk or muscle to move this rascal. When this gets to working, I'll post a pic for the rest of you guys whom Steve kicks sand in face (smile). BTW, Steve... the desert is at its very best this summer... you should stop in... love to have you visit. Thanks guys. Himmelberg
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