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Old Mar 4, 2015 | 09:42 PM
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I replaced my ranchos with 800 miles on the truck. I put the Bilstein 5100 on have have not regretted it. I have have air system on the truck too. I tow a 44' Cyclone 3950, with no issues.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2015 | 10:11 PM
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I swapped out the OEM Ranchos at 50,000 miles and out the Rancho 9000 on. I set them at the middle setting and have never changed them. They have 90,000 miles on them now. Seem to be working just fine.

When I bought them, There was good rebate that made them considerable cheaper than the Bilstiens
 
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Old Mar 5, 2015 | 03:04 AM
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I replaced the oem shocks within the first week of ownership. Installed Bilstein HD's and I am very happy with them.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2015 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ruschejj
There was a guy/member here who went by srkr I think and he always made this point which I kind of agree with.

If rancho is willing to let ford use this crappy OEM shock with a rancho sticker on it, then why on earth would I want to buy one of their products? By placing their name on these awful shocks they are okay with the perception that their brand is all about cosmetics and less about real performance. This says to me that they have "sold out" in a way which leaves a negative vibe in my little brain.

Now, rancho representatives have been here at Fte to promote their product and try to ease folks like myself that their "real" shocks are good quality, so, I'm just adding another log on the fire here. It's been a long time since we had this debate at FTE and with all the new faces it would be cool to see what y'all think.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2015 | 01:18 AM
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Great timing as I've been researching brands to replace my OEM shocks. Anyone have any comments on KYB Monomax?
 
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Old Mar 6, 2015 | 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by ruschejj
There was a guy/member here who went by srkr I think and he always made this point which I kind of agree with.

If rancho is willing to let ford use this crappy OEM shock with a rancho sticker on it, then why on earth would I want to buy one of their products? By placing their name on these awful shocks they are okay with the perception that their brand is all about cosmetics and less about real performance. This says to me that they have "sold out" in a way which leaves a negative vibe in my little brain.

Now, rancho representatives have been here at Fte to promote their product and try to ease folks like myself that their "real" shocks are good quality, so, I'm just adding another log on the fire here. It's been a long time since we had this debate at FTE and with all the new faces it would be cool to see what y'all think.

I am not the smartest guy but my conclusion is that the money they make putting their sticker on the horrible oem shocks outweighs the negative backlash from people who realize how bad the FX4 shocks really are.


After a week of being on the truck I could compress them with ease and it would take what seemed like 10 minutes for them to fully extend. While it takes a lot of pressure to compress the Bilstein HDs and they spring back immediately.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2015 | 06:21 AM
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Have any of you had success changing shocks and getting rid of the the rear wheel hop? Also how can you tell if the shocks are bad? I only know of the bounce test but the back end of these things don't bounce. Also what is a 2" or 2 1/2" shock? A guy on another forum said he used 2 1/2" shocks to get rid of his bounce.

I have the fx4 on my 250 cclb.

Thanks for any help.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2015 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Rattler1
Have any of you had success changing shocks and getting rid of the the rear wheel hop? Also how can you tell if the shocks are bad? I only know of the bounce test but the back end of these things don't bounce. Also what is a 2" or 2 1/2" shock? A guy on another forum said he used 2 1/2" shocks to get rid of his bounce.

I have the fx4 on my 250 cclb.

Thanks for any help.
Look for oil seepage around the piston rod.

As for wheel hop that is more of a challenge. I would say Ford has not done a good job on mitigating that. When you are putting out 800 + lbs of torque its hard to control. Things that will help: Heavy duty and or adjustable shocks, a traction device in the axle such as limited slip or lockers and or a traction bar. In addition if you have a older high mileage vehicle the bushings could be worn allowing movement.

Or you can rid yourself of it completely by wearing a smaller size shoe and adding a brick behind the go pedal.

A note of caution here: Excessive wheel hop can and often does lead to catastrophic damage to your axle, gears and suspension components.

On a leaf spring auto its the application of power which causes the axle to begin to wrap which twists the leaf spring set allowing the tire to lift, losing traction and then the sudden violent action of the leaf pack now overcoming the weight of the axle as it unwraps.

My '11 F 350 was prone to hop, especially coming up the road to the barn, it got steep and it truly took a feather approach on the go pedal. My '15 with limited slip axle does not give me wheel hop so in this cause I attribute it to the limited slip. That said in my race car I suddenly started having wheel hop which got worse real quick. What I finally discovered was a bushing on the right side had worn to the point it allowed the axle to move back and forth thus inducing wheel hop.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2015 | 10:11 AM
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You are comparing a non gas charged shock to a high gas charge, that explains the "rebound".


Originally Posted by gwcon
I am not the smartest guy but my conclusion is that the money they make putting their sticker on the horrible oem shocks outweighs the negative backlash from people who realize how bad the FX4 shocks really are.


After a week of being on the truck I could compress them with ease and it would take what seemed like 10 minutes for them to fully extend. While it takes a lot of pressure to compress the Bilstein HDs and they spring back immediately.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2015 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 17 Oaks
Look for oil seepage around the piston rod.

As for wheel hop that is more of a challenge. I would say Ford has not done a good job on mitigating that. When you are putting out 800 + lbs of torque its hard to control. Things that will help: Heavy duty and or adjustable shocks, a traction device in the axle such as limited slip or lockers and or a traction bar. In addition if you have a older high mileage vehicle the bushings could be worn allowing movement.

Or you can rid yourself of it completely by wearing a smaller size shoe and adding a brick behind the go pedal.

A note of caution here: Excessive wheel hop can and often does lead to catastrophic damage to your axle, gears and suspension components.

On a leaf spring auto its the application of power which causes the axle to begin to wrap which twists the leaf spring set allowing the tire to lift, losing traction and then the sudden violent action of the leaf pack now overcoming the weight of the axle as it unwraps.

My '11 F 350 was prone to hop, especially coming up the road to the barn, it got steep and it truly took a feather approach on the go pedal. My '15 with limited slip axle does not give me wheel hop so in this cause I attribute it to the limited slip. That said in my race car I suddenly started having wheel hop which got worse real quick. What I finally discovered was a bushing on the right side had worn to the point it allowed the axle to move back and forth thus inducing wheel hop.
I think he was referring to the 45mph wheel hop.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2015 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by elee3
I think he was referring to the 45mph wheel hop.
Look for oil seepage around the piston rod.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2015 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Rancho Suspension
You are comparing a non gas charged shock to a high gas charge, that explains the "rebound".
Interesting. Would one of the Rancho high gas charged shocks, as opposed to the the non gas charged factory FX4 shocks, help with the wheel hop that has plagued the Fords for many years?

Yes I was referring to the 45 and 65ish mph wheel hop issues.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2015 | 05:13 PM
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If you are exp wheel hop at 45/65 mph or at any speed, then unless you have a bad shock you have other issues:

Tire out of round

Tire out of balance

Tire with internal separation, look for bulge on sidewalls or on the tread of the tire itself

Tire with separating or peeling tread, look for the tread layer splitting or chunked away

Depending upon the what your wheel was built it maybe possible that it has some weight from and external source lodged in it (mud is common)
 
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Old Mar 6, 2015 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 17 Oaks
If you are exp wheel hop at 45/65 mph or at any speed, then unless you have a bad shock you have other issues:

Tire out of round

Tire out of balance

Tire with internal separation, look for bulge on sidewalls or on the tread of the tire itself

Tire with separating or peeling tread, look for the tread layer splitting or chunked away

Depending upon the what your wheel was built it maybe possible that it has some weight from and external source lodged in it (mud is common)
It is a well documented problem that has plagued a lot of Fords for many years. Suffice it to say that 99.999% of the time the tires aren't the issue. It is well documented in a 40+ page thread on powerstroke.org as well as many other places - here included.

Lucky for you duallys don't seem to ever have the problem.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2015 | 08:21 PM
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Gwcon,


I just bought a '15 350 dually pickup not chassis not yet reflected on my signature.

What part numbers did you use to order your Bilstein's for the 2015? Were yours the 4600 or the 5100's?

Like my 2011's that I tossed, the Bilstein catalogue is still 2-3 years behind current. I don"t off road, but do tow heavy. Need to dump them Rancho's.





Originally Posted by gwcon
I replaced the oem shocks within the first week of ownership. Installed Bilstein HD's and I am very happy with them.
 
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