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Old Mar 3, 2015 | 02:37 PM
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Towing without trailer brakes

A friend would like me to tow his boat that is on a tandem axle trailer and weighs in at less than 3000lbs. The problem is the surge brakes are inoperative and he wants to repair them at the destination which is 40 miles away. The drive is mostly flat. I have a 2015 SD 6.2 with a 4.30 rear end. The question is will my truck handle this without a braking issue?
 
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Old Mar 3, 2015 | 02:44 PM
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I would.... but you should not. That is illegal and unsafe.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2015 | 02:57 PM
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I would.... but you should not. That is illegal and unsafe.
I checked the vehicle code and there is no mention of trailer brakes. I am just concerned about the trailer moving in an unintended direction during a hard stop.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2015 | 03:39 PM
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I bet close to half of the surge brakes out there aren't working correctly... It shouldn't be an issue if you drive with caution, but in most states anything over 2k (IIRC) requires trailer brakes.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2015 | 06:04 PM
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I bet close to half of the surge brakes out there aren't working correctly... It shouldn't be an issue if you drive with caution, but in most states anything over 2k (IIRC) requires trailer brakes.
Thanks for your comments! I think I've convinced him to do a disk brake conversion in the storage lot. Really didn't want to take a chance with having his boat spread all over the landscape.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2015 | 06:15 PM
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40 miles of flat. That ain't much. You could do that twice in less time than you could clear an accident caused by a lack of braking power. Can he take the boat off for the first round, then return with a properly braked trailer?
 
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Old Mar 3, 2015 | 06:50 PM
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I checked the vehicle code and there is no mention of trailer brakes. I am just concerned about the trailer moving in an unintended direction during a hard stop.

Can't say for other states, but PA does not require brakes on trailers under 3K. 3,001 GVWR and up requires brakes. Leave plenty of room to stop, but you should be fine.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2015 | 08:19 AM
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I probably wouldn't have worried about it. I pull a trailer that pushes 2700 when loaded with the ATVs and miscellaneous camping gear and it does not even brakes, inoperable or otherwise.


In looking at this list Trailer Brakes | AAA/CAA Digest of Motor Laws it appears that most states make the break on whether needed or not at 3000 GVW. A few are less and some are more.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2015 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Chalkie
I probably wouldn't have worried about it. I pull a trailer that pushes 2700 when loaded with the ATVs and miscellaneous camping gear and it does not even brakes, inoperable or otherwise.


In looking at this list Trailer Brakes | AAA/CAA Digest of Motor Laws it appears that most states make the break on whether needed or not at 3000 GVW. A few are less and some are more.
Thanks for the link to the guide! It's interesting how Ontario states the need to be able to stop in 40ft from 20mph. I would guess with a rated payload of 3000lbs or more a 2015 F 250 should handle that when empty with no problem.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2015 | 02:34 PM
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I pulled an 8,500lb 5th wheel about 50 miles through western PA (not exactly flat) without trailer brakes. Your advantage is you KNOW they are out. Your safety cushion is about 4X what it would be normally with towing that weight. Plan your route, avoid heavy traffic and steep grades. 3k isn't that heavy for your truck. You should do fine.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2015 | 05:29 PM
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I'd tow it.


Use manual mode for the trans so you have max engine braking. Keep lots of distance in front of you so you have plenty of reaction time.


I have towed many a trailer without brakes. Did once at about 16K out in Ohio and did just fine. But I have a lot of experience with these situations.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2015 | 07:30 AM
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Stay in tow mode and you'll be fine. Arizona requires brakes at 3000 also.
 
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