Does anyone know Sandblasting?
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Does anyone know Sandblasting?
Hey guys,
So I went to HF the other day and decided to buy a portable sandblaster, I attached it to my 6 gal. Air compressor and set the tool PSI to 125, It worked really well for the first second and a half before I had to back off so that I wouldn't waste the sand.
I want to purchase a nice compressor / tank that will help me achieve my goal. Before I make any rash decisions I wanted to see anyone's opinion / experiences in this. Id hate to spend 500 dollars on a piece of equipment later to find out that a 200 dollar compressor would have done the job just as good. I plan on blasting the frame and all small misc. parts. I will also continue to use this in the future to save costs on my vintage bicycle restoring collection.
All this being said... Is there anything other than (wires, cab bolts and steering column) keeping the cab and bed on the frame? I know a person working on a vehicle without the proper knowledge thinking he can do the job is the worst kind of mechanic
So I went to HF the other day and decided to buy a portable sandblaster, I attached it to my 6 gal. Air compressor and set the tool PSI to 125, It worked really well for the first second and a half before I had to back off so that I wouldn't waste the sand.
I want to purchase a nice compressor / tank that will help me achieve my goal. Before I make any rash decisions I wanted to see anyone's opinion / experiences in this. Id hate to spend 500 dollars on a piece of equipment later to find out that a 200 dollar compressor would have done the job just as good. I plan on blasting the frame and all small misc. parts. I will also continue to use this in the future to save costs on my vintage bicycle restoring collection.
All this being said... Is there anything other than (wires, cab bolts and steering column) keeping the cab and bed on the frame? I know a person working on a vehicle without the proper knowledge thinking he can do the job is the worst kind of mechanic
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garagejournal.com has some pretty good discussions on compressor size for media blasting.
Your tip size will determine your airflow. The smaller the tip, the less air you need. The larger the tip, the more air you need. Of course a smaller tip means you're blasting a smaller area which means your work will take longer. If you're primarily using it for bicycles, I'd think you can get away with less compressor than someone restoring vehicles.
Go here and and you'll find an air chart for different sized nozzles, air flow and horsepower of compressor. The compressor I wanted was $1800 new when I last looked a few years ago. That'll never happen though so every once in a while I browse the classifieds looking for used. I've seen some really good prices used. Just don't buy one with a rusted out tank.
Your tip size will determine your airflow. The smaller the tip, the less air you need. The larger the tip, the more air you need. Of course a smaller tip means you're blasting a smaller area which means your work will take longer. If you're primarily using it for bicycles, I'd think you can get away with less compressor than someone restoring vehicles.
Go here and and you'll find an air chart for different sized nozzles, air flow and horsepower of compressor. The compressor I wanted was $1800 new when I last looked a few years ago. That'll never happen though so every once in a while I browse the classifieds looking for used. I've seen some really good prices used. Just don't buy one with a rusted out tank.
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garagejournal.com has some pretty good discussions on compressor size for media blasting.
Your tip size will determine your airflow. The smaller the tip, the less air you need. The larger the tip, the more air you need. Of course a smaller tip means you're blasting a smaller area which means your work will take longer. If you're primarily using it for bicycles, I'd think you can get away with less compressor than someone restoring vehicles.
Go here and and you'll find an air chart for different sized nozzles, air flow and horsepower of compressor. The compressor I wanted was $1800 new when I last looked a few years ago. That'll never happen though so every once in a while I browse the classifieds looking for used. I've seen some really good prices used. Just don't buy one with a rusted out tank.
Your tip size will determine your airflow. The smaller the tip, the less air you need. The larger the tip, the more air you need. Of course a smaller tip means you're blasting a smaller area which means your work will take longer. If you're primarily using it for bicycles, I'd think you can get away with less compressor than someone restoring vehicles.
Go here and and you'll find an air chart for different sized nozzles, air flow and horsepower of compressor. The compressor I wanted was $1800 new when I last looked a few years ago. That'll never happen though so every once in a while I browse the classifieds looking for used. I've seen some really good prices used. Just don't buy one with a rusted out tank.
This was a very good chart thanks, I think it will help me find exactly what I need... Also HF is having a sale this weekend
What if I don't like my lungs
... but in all seriousness will a proper mask stop the damage? I have about 10 bags of play sand in my garage, didn't know that was an option...(even though it is a SAND blaster)
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Here's a link to the dangers of sandblasting with sand.
Silicosis | Definition and Patient Education
Silicosis | Definition and Patient Education
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Any true sand will give you silicosis if you breathe the particles coming off of the blasting. That's because the sand particles crack and give off bad stuff. I use coal slag, which is sometimes sold as Black Beauty or Black Diamond in places like Tractor Supply or even HF. It doesn't give off the bad stuff and is more aggressive than sand as well as cheap.
I use sand outside with a good breeze, which we always seem to have in OK. And, I have a really good mask. But, in reality that is probably still not adequate protection.
I use sand outside with a good breeze, which we always seem to have in OK. And, I have a really good mask. But, in reality that is probably still not adequate protection.
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Here's a link to the dangers of sandblasting with sand.
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... I had no idea it was that much of an issue, Thanks Franklin2
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Any true sand will give you silicosis if you breathe the particles coming off of the blasting. That's because the sand particles crack and give off bad stuff. I use coal slag, which is sometimes sold as Black Beauty or Black Diamond in places like Tractor Supply or even HF. It doesn't give off the bad stuff and is more aggressive than sand as well as cheap.
I use sand outside with a good breeze, which we always seem to have in OK. And, I have a really good mask. But, in reality that is probably still not adequate protection.
I use sand outside with a good breeze, which we always seem to have in OK. And, I have a really good mask. But, in reality that is probably still not adequate protection.
Sweet this is good stuff! thanks for the insight, Yea I love that OK wind... Can the sandblaster tip handle the coal slag?
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Here's a link to the dangers of sandblasting with sand.
Silicosis | Definition and Patient Education
Silicosis | Definition and Patient Education
Sand and many rock dusts have high silica content, usually appearing as shiny flecks (quartz is really bad) and it's a high priority it's to address in the quarry / mining business.
Don't use a disposable "dust mask" go for a full respirator, load it with an organic filter, a particulate filter and then a disposable pre-filter. Then you can quickly change the pre-filter and save heaps of coin. Keep it in a sealed container or bag when not in use as the organic filter will continue to soak up nasties from the air. You can then use this on nearly all your blasting, cleaning and painting jobs. Anything you can't do with this combo, you shouldn't be doing at home
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I sandblast all the time.
I had a Clarke brand sandblaster from TSC, the same one HF sells. Kinda junk but for the money(FREE) it was worth it
Clarke Power Products Sand Blaster Pressure Pot CLKSB9008: Advance Auto Parts
I then got one from Eastwood. A MUCH better setup
Pressure Blaster Model 110
But either one used A LOT of air to do a decent job. I have a 10hp/120gallon tank Quincy air compressor that put out 34cf @ 100psi And it ran pretty frequent when sandblasting. I used to use the "beekeepers" hood with a 3M respirator w replaceable cartridges. That was a SWEATY MESS.
I then upgraded a couple of years ago.
Bought a used setup......
-175 Ingersoll diesel tow behind compressor(175cfm @100psi)
-Sandstorm Sandblast pot(IIRC is is a F model) built in 1969. It holds 300lbs of material
Welcome to Sanstorm-Blasters.com
I then bought a fresh air pump with filters and 75' of hose(with super cheap hood)
and a Nova hood
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Airgas - ALENV3000 - Allegro® NOVA 3® Supplied Air Blasting Helmet With 28" Nylon Cape And Breathing Tube
The fresh air setup is where it is at!!!! It pressurizes the hood so NO DUST can get inside and it is constantly a cool breeze so you don't sweat to death
me in my setup
Also, Play sand SUCKs for blasting. Too many BIG chunks that will clog the hose and nozzle. Go buy some black beauty or industrial sand that has been FILTERED to take the debris out
I had a Clarke brand sandblaster from TSC, the same one HF sells. Kinda junk but for the money(FREE) it was worth it
Clarke Power Products Sand Blaster Pressure Pot CLKSB9008: Advance Auto Parts
I then got one from Eastwood. A MUCH better setup
Pressure Blaster Model 110
But either one used A LOT of air to do a decent job. I have a 10hp/120gallon tank Quincy air compressor that put out 34cf @ 100psi And it ran pretty frequent when sandblasting. I used to use the "beekeepers" hood with a 3M respirator w replaceable cartridges. That was a SWEATY MESS.
I then upgraded a couple of years ago.
Bought a used setup......
-175 Ingersoll diesel tow behind compressor(175cfm @100psi)
-Sandstorm Sandblast pot(IIRC is is a F model) built in 1969. It holds 300lbs of material
Welcome to Sanstorm-Blasters.com
I then bought a fresh air pump with filters and 75' of hose(with super cheap hood)
and a Nova hood
Respirators - Respirator Mask | Turbine Products
Airgas - ALENV3000 - Allegro® NOVA 3® Supplied Air Blasting Helmet With 28" Nylon Cape And Breathing Tube
The fresh air setup is where it is at!!!! It pressurizes the hood so NO DUST can get inside and it is constantly a cool breeze so you don't sweat to death
me in my setup
Also, Play sand SUCKs for blasting. Too many BIG chunks that will clog the hose and nozzle. Go buy some black beauty or industrial sand that has been FILTERED to take the debris out
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I, too, have an Eastwoor blaster and a bee-keeper hood/3M filter combo and I'll second Brad's comment about a sweaty mess. I seriously dislike using it and won't unless it is cool. It takes several days for all of the abrasive to get out of my ears
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I've started using the foam ear plugs, which work fairly well. But some sand seems to still get by them. Or, is it the sand draining out my head?