Notices
6.4L Power Stroke Diesel Engine fitted to 2008 - 2010 F250, F350 and F450 pickup trucks and F350 + Cab Chassis

Exhaust brake problems

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 23, 2015 | 03:28 PM
  #1  
redz284u's Avatar
redz284u
Thread Starter
|
Tuned
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 321
Likes: 4
Exhaust brake problems

For the 3rd time now, going about 55-60mph, down hill, my exhaust brake kicks in extremely aggressive. Shoots my rpms up to 4k, and my coolant leaks all over the place. I loose about half a gallon of it each time. It's really begining to worry me. Any thoughts?

Towing in tow/haul mode, switch it out immediately, but it's too late. Coolant loss.

Any reason this would be happening? How to diagnose or fix?

5th'er dials in at 18k lbs.
 
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2015 | 03:50 PM
  #2  
mohle's Avatar
mohle
More Turbo
15 Year Member
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 537
Likes: 3
From: Carvel, AB, Canada
Unles you have added an aftermarket one, you don't really have an exhaust brake on your truck. The transmission is merely gearing down. If you are losing coolant during this, I would believe your heads are lifting and/or your head gaskets are toast.
 
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2015 | 03:59 PM
  #3  
redz284u's Avatar
redz284u
Thread Starter
|
Tuned
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 321
Likes: 4
Originally Posted by mohle
Unles you have added an aftermarket one, you don't really have an exhaust brake on your truck. The transmission is merely gearing down. If you are losing coolant during this, I would believe your heads are lifting and/or your head gaskets are toast.
Please don't say "H... G....."

If it was the head gaskets, wouldn't I see white smoke. Specially under such heavy load?

Is there a way to verify it is or it's not the head gaskets?
 
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2015 | 05:53 PM
  #4  
senix's Avatar
senix
Super Moderator
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 37,384
Likes: 1,868
From: Frederick, MD
Club FTE Gold Member
Change the degas bottle cap first. Sand (lightly) the opening of the degas bottle before putting a new cap on it.


See if that cures it.
 
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2015 | 05:57 PM
  #5  
redz284u's Avatar
redz284u
Thread Starter
|
Tuned
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 321
Likes: 4
Originally Posted by senix
Change the degas bottle cap first. Sand (lightly) the opening of the degas bottle before putting a new cap on it.


See if that cures it.
I'm on my second cap in 6 months. First one I though maybe defective. But now second, can't be.......so I decided to post here.....
 
Reply
Old Feb 24, 2015 | 12:33 AM
  #6  
mohle's Avatar
mohle
More Turbo
15 Year Member
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 537
Likes: 3
From: Carvel, AB, Canada
Sorry, but it sounds like you have exhaust gases getting into your coolant passages. Really the only way this can happen in such volume is if your heads are lifting or you have a gasket blown. Either way, you will have to replace the head gasket. I would try the cap, but the chance of that causing it are pretty slim given the description you are giving. High RPM shouldn't really increase the pressure in the cooling system that much. Have you checked if you have any cross contamination between oil and coolant?
 
Reply
Old Feb 24, 2015 | 12:47 AM
  #7  
mohle's Avatar
mohle
More Turbo
15 Year Member
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 537
Likes: 3
From: Carvel, AB, Canada
Originally Posted by redz284u
Please don't say "H... G....."

If it was the head gaskets, wouldn't I see white smoke. Specially under such heavy load?

Is there a way to verify it is or it's not the head gaskets?


You would only be getting smoke if the coolant got into the combustion chamber. Sounds to me like you have combustion gas going into the coolant. You may also want to inspect the EGR coolers.
 
Reply
Old Feb 24, 2015 | 04:58 AM
  #8  
senix's Avatar
senix
Super Moderator
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 37,384
Likes: 1,868
From: Frederick, MD
Club FTE Gold Member
hg issue I am afraid. Good news is it sounds like you can nurse it along before you have to do the repair.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ways Ford is LOSING to the Competition

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Top 6 Best Deals Available on New Fords & Lincolns Right Now

 Brett Foote
story-2

This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

 Brett Foote
story-5

10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-6

Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

 Brett Foote
story-7

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Feb 24, 2015 | 08:28 AM
  #9  
fatboytx's Avatar
fatboytx
Senior User
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 128
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by mohle
You would only be getting smoke if the coolant got into the combustion chamber. Sounds to me like you have combustion gas going into the coolant. You may also want to inspect the EGR coolers.
To test EGR coolers ... on a cold engine pull the EBP sensor near horizontal cooler and then pressurize the cooling system. Wait 15 minutes or so to see if any coolant appears.
 
Reply
Old Feb 24, 2015 | 11:42 AM
  #10  
redz284u's Avatar
redz284u
Thread Starter
|
Tuned
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 321
Likes: 4
Anybody have any feedback regarding the cause of the problem? Why will it down shift so aggressively and put my rpms in the 4k range?
 
Reply
Old Feb 24, 2015 | 07:45 PM
  #11  
mohle's Avatar
mohle
More Turbo
15 Year Member
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 537
Likes: 3
From: Carvel, AB, Canada
Not the expert on this, but I would assume that because the combustion gases are escaping, the engine can rev more freely. Furthermore, the electronics are probably telling the engine to go for even higher RPM as it's not seeing the deceleration that it is anticipating.
 
Reply
Old Feb 28, 2015 | 05:59 PM
  #12  
mohle's Avatar
mohle
More Turbo
15 Year Member
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 537
Likes: 3
From: Carvel, AB, Canada
Redz284u, what did you end up finding?
 
Reply
Old Feb 28, 2015 | 06:08 PM
  #13  
redz284u's Avatar
redz284u
Thread Starter
|
Tuned
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 321
Likes: 4
Originally Posted by mohle
Redz284u, what did you end up finding?
Nothing so far. Have to take it in to see what's the deal. I stopped driving it until I have some cash for the head gasket in case it does end up being that.
 
Reply
Old Mar 1, 2015 | 02:47 AM
  #14  
mohle's Avatar
mohle
More Turbo
15 Year Member
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 537
Likes: 3
From: Carvel, AB, Canada
It is too bad these things are so expensive to fix.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
4.9inline6
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
11
Oct 4, 2011 12:24 AM
JNKDad
1997 - 2006 Expedition & Navigator
3
Mar 25, 2010 11:01 PM
GJSPCLT
1997 - 2003 F150
2
Dec 10, 2009 09:41 PM
renchr56
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
8
Nov 29, 2005 03:00 PM
TdiRAcing
Pre-Power Stroke Diesel (7.3L IDI & 6.9L)
26
Sep 15, 2004 09:00 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:07 AM.

story-0
10 Ways Ford is LOSING to the Competition

Slideshow: 10 ways Ford is losing to the competition

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-15 09:52:01


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 6 Best Deals Available on New Fords & Lincolns Right Now

Some great targets in today's expensive world.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-15 09:35:19


VIEW MORE
story-2
This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

Slideshow: The VelociRaptor Expedition gains a lift, upgraded suspension, Brembo brakes, and trail-ready equipment while retaining the stock 440-horsepower EcoBoost V6.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-12 11:01:55


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

Slideshow: Top 10 Fords at 2026 Ford Nationals

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 11:10:08


VIEW MORE
story-4
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

Based on years of owning multiple modern Ford products.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 10:53:36


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

SPONSORED: From muddy boots to rain-soaked cargo, these upgrades address some of the most common frustrations Ford truck owners face every day.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-08 18:50:34


VIEW MORE
story-6
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-9
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE