2002 F250SD Hold over

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 07-22-2003, 07:46 PM
goblin's Avatar
goblin
goblin is offline
New User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2002 F250SD Hold over

Whats a good price for a 2002 F250 SD V10 4X4 XLT SuperCab New.
I got the dealer Talked down from MSRP $29900 to $26500. Thats out the door, tax, title, regist. I trying for $25000 out the door. Any opinions, suggestions?
 
  #2  
Old 07-23-2003, 07:25 AM
AlM's Avatar
AlM
AlM is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Mar 2000
Posts: 2,306
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2002 F250SD Hold over

I'd try for $25k too since that's what your gut feeling prob is.

We set a price that we want to pay; usually it is lower than any dealer ads or first quotes; we get that price by having a pre-approved check in-hand (we have Navy Fed Credit Union so don't know if your bank can do same) and waving it around.
And, you should have patience, as you seem to have.
 
  #3  
Old 07-24-2003, 08:50 AM
1956MarkII's Avatar
1956MarkII
1956MarkII is offline
Lead Driver
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Safety Harbor, FL USA
Posts: 7,745
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
2002 F250SD Hold over

There is no good price on this vehicle. It's been sitting around WAY TOO LONG, and the problems that you'll have with it because of this won't outweigh the money you'll save. Please, get a price on a 2003 AT ANOTHER DEALERSHIP. Don't compare at the dealer that has the 2002, 'cause they're gonna stack the deck in favor of the '02.
 
  #4  
Old 07-24-2003, 02:20 PM
Billy177's Avatar
Billy177
Billy177 is offline
Senior User
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 124
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2002 F250SD Hold over

i agree a car that has been sitting around for a year would definitly have some prolblems i would look at a 2003
 
  #5  
Old 07-25-2003, 10:53 AM
Waxy's Avatar
Waxy
Waxy is offline
Postmaster
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Calgary Canada
Posts: 3,496
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2002 F250SD Hold over

1956MarkII,

Could you give some examples of the types of difficulties one might have if they were to purchase this vehicle?

Waxy
 
  #6  
Old 07-25-2003, 11:05 AM
1956MarkII's Avatar
1956MarkII
1956MarkII is offline
Lead Driver
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Safety Harbor, FL USA
Posts: 7,745
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
2002 F250SD Hold over

Originally posted by Waxy
1956MarkII,

Could you give some examples of the types of difficulties one might have if they were to purchase this vehicle?

Waxy
Picture this vehicle sitting on my lot in Upstate New York. Every time it snows, we have to move the vehicles in order to plow. Start an ice-cold engine, move it forward 20 feet, and shut it off. We do this over and over again throughout the winter. I'm sure THAT'S real good for the powetrain. We also have nasty problems with acid rain damage to paint finishes in this area. The longer it sits, the worse it gets. This may sound strange, but I've found that vehicles that sit a long time develop strange electrical problems: wipers turn themselves on and off, lights stop working, etc... But the biggest problem is with seals and gaskets. Every time I've sold a vehicle that has sat for a year or more, it's back in the shop within a week, spurting fluid from everywhere. All the seals and gaskets have dried out from lack of use, and they all have to be replaced. All in all, I just don't see these leftovers EVER being a good buy. You're really not buying it for that much less, and the small savings isn't worth the hassles. You can imagine how much my fellow dealers appreciate my sharing this info; NOW you know why I post here incognito!
 
  #7  
Old 07-26-2003, 08:43 AM
towboat's Avatar
towboat
towboat is offline
Senior User
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 114
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2002 F250SD Hold over

How old is the fuel in that gas tank? Fuel degrades within a few months and can cause a number of EFI problems if stabalizer wasn't added.

Engines that sit for months without being started can form rust on the iron cylinder walls above the pistons, this is why marine engines are "fogged" with spray oil when prepped for winter lay-up, it also keeps the rings free. Of course this can't be done on a modern truck engine but the risk of internal corrosion is the same.

It would be good if the odometer shows a few hundred miles which means someone actually drove it occasionally and it didn't just sit on the lot.

Oh by the way hello, this is my first post here.
 
  #8  
Old 07-28-2003, 05:57 PM
fisher_of_man's Avatar
fisher_of_man
fisher_of_man is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: West Texas
Posts: 1,406
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2002 F250SD Hold over

I agree with 1956MarkII...unless they are giving it away as a door prize, I would leave it there and find something else....I have heard of people having all kinds of electrical problems and gasket/seal problems after a vehicle has sat that long (even here in Texas). If your gonna spend that much money on a vehicle, why buy one that is loaded with potential problems.
 
  #9  
Old 07-29-2003, 10:11 PM
2002 F350V10's Avatar
2002 F350V10
2002 F350V10 is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,273
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
2002 F250SD Hold over

the vehicle has a warranty, and you should get it at invoice price
(not list) atleast. what about rebates also. my experience with determining what a dealer paid has alot to do with it.
here is a example.take invoice, deduct holdback, they pay less than that, cause they get a kickback on the total volume sold for the month.more sold =less they pay =more kickback.I was able
to get my 2002 f350 4x4 at invoice, and then the rebate made
it less, and then they threw in a ford bedliner , 2 extra remotes,and the rubber mats also in the deal. I thought i did
well.some dealers flex, others are jerks. shop around.last week
i went by al piemonte ford in melrose park ,ill. and I was suprised
to see 3 new 2001 superdutys still on their lot when the 2004s
are coming out. thats right 2001s!!!!!!what are they thinking????
 
  #10  
Old 07-30-2003, 10:38 AM
Waxy's Avatar
Waxy
Waxy is offline
Postmaster
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Calgary Canada
Posts: 3,496
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2002 F250SD Hold over

I gotta say, I wouldn't be afraid of it.

It's got warranty for 3yrs/60,000kms right?

In terms of appearance, it's going to be the same as any other vehicle stored outside, so I can't see that as a problem.

It might develop some electrical/mechanical gremlins, MIGHT. Big deal, have the dealer do a thorough once over before you drive off, then deal with it if it happens, again, you have warranty.

You just have to remember that the truck is already 1-3 years old, so regardless of mileage/condition, it has depreciated considerably. The dealer is well aware of this, trust me, and he's sick of paying to finance that vehicle on his lot. Make him a low ball offer and he'll take it, what other choice does he have? Take in a list of what comparable low km 2001 or 2002s are selling for, add a couple $1000, and tell him to take it or leave it.

It's that or they roll the dice at auction.

If the price is right, I'd jump in with both feet.

Waxy
 
  #11  
Old 08-01-2003, 07:11 PM
Zim's Avatar
Zim
Zim is offline
New User
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Pa.
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Lightbulb 2002 F250SD Hold over

I would stick to the price you have planned to spend.
Car dealers are a dime a dozen. Do not impulse buy in this
situation. If you have the patience and time you will
find a reputable dealer and salesman. They are difficult
to find sometimes, but it will be worth it in the end.
 
  #12  
Old 08-04-2003, 12:27 PM
flatsboat's Avatar
flatsboat
flatsboat is offline
New User
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2002 F250SD Hold over

I don't know where you live but I bought a leftover car once because of the price. It was a very good car mechanically speaking, very few problems. However, the car sat out in the sun every day for a year here in South Florida at the dealer. As a consequence, not long after the warranty expired, the paint deteriorated severly. A repainted car is never as good as the original and the several thousand dollar cost to repaint will eat whatever savings you got. I feel if I had bought a newly delivered car, I would have gotten at least 2-3 more years out of the paint because I try keep it in the shade whenever possible. Just something to consider.
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
premiertech
6.7L Power Stroke Diesel
1
12-02-2014 04:56 PM
Andy Man
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
6
08-09-2011 08:58 AM
Carl Lassiter
1999 to 2016 Super Duty
18
08-30-2008 11:21 AM
Bogeyfree31
1999 to 2016 Super Duty
18
12-07-2003 08:10 PM
p_white
1997 - 2003 F150
2
02-22-2002 05:19 PM



Quick Reply: 2002 F250SD Hold over



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:48 PM.