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Old Feb 14, 2015 | 01:18 PM
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48-50 gauge cluster customization

So I have been going back and forth on how I want to do my gauges in my truck. I never really liked the look of those aluminum inserts so that was pretty much out from the get go. I also dont like the look of a modified dash so that brought me to modifying the stock gauge cluster. I have seen where guys take gauges from a later model ford and place them in the gauge opening, but i would like more precise readings that just "hot" and "cold" or "high" and "low" oil pressure. So i decided to try and fit some autometer gauges in the stock cluster. I bought an arctic white temp gauge to try it out on. I had a gift certificate for jegs so if it doesn't work out, I'm only out twenty bucks. I going to try and keep the same placement as the stock gauges where the needle pivot point is below the windows. This will require some kind of filler since the windows are 2 inches across and the gauge will be 2 inches at its widest point. I'm going to try to make this filler piece black or at least partially black to recreate the two tone apearence of the stock gauges. I also have some ideas on recreating the cross hatching on the face of the cluster. I will update this thread when the gauges gets here.


 
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Old Feb 14, 2015 | 09:03 PM
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I like where your trying to go with this and I can't wait to see your progress.


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Old Feb 15, 2015 | 08:15 AM
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Note that the OEM gauges are actually round, so using round gauges to resemble the stock cluster should not be difficult. A mask could be cut from 1/16" or 1/8" opaque black plexiglass (or ABS if you want a mat finish).
 
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Old Feb 15, 2015 | 11:06 AM
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I am watching this with interest as I have the same view on these gauges. My 1949 F-1 had the aluminum panel and aftermarket gauges installed when I bought it, but I did score an original (well-used) cluster at a swap meet last summer.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2015 | 06:34 PM
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Thanks for the interest and ideas guys. Another idea i had would be to make a new face plate and have the holes be half circles. That would eliminate any filler pieces I would need to add around the gauges. What do you guys think?
 
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Old Feb 16, 2015 | 09:55 PM
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Here is something I drew up quick.

 
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Old Feb 16, 2015 | 11:18 PM
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How good are your cad skills? If you can draw it accurately you can have a machine shop with a CAM mill mill it out for you. Once you have proven the file, you can cut as many as you want.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2015 | 07:58 AM
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That's a pretty good idea. Here is something I drew up on solidworks.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2015 | 08:27 AM
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Looks good - may need to raise the lower ones up a bit to make room for the round gauges behind...maybe not.
 
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Looks good - may need to raise the lower ones up a bit to make room for the round gauges behind...maybe not.
It would be a face plate to go in place of just the original beige face plate. The original gauges are 2 in round as well so they should fit in the stock location.
 
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Great idea! I've been wondering what to do with my gauges (when I get that far!) Will be following this...
 
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Originally Posted by Gicknordon
That's a pretty good idea. Here is something I drew up on solidworks.

Solidworks is a great modeling software and great job on your design. Want to follow and see how yours turns out.
 
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Great idea! I've been wondering what to do with my gauges (when I get that far!) Will be following this...
Me too. Subscribed . . .
 
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Ok so the gauge came in and i made some progress.

Here it is fresh out of the box. I felt bad about taking it since it was brand new, but that was why i bought it.


The chrome bezel is crimped on from the back. To remove it, you have to pry on the back of it until it opens up enough to pop it off. Since the gauge body is plastic, you have to be careful not to break it by prying on it too hard.

Here is what it looks like with the gauge body off. You could mount it without the body, but im going to keep the body since it has the back light built in and it is so close to the original hole size.



The original holes are just slightly smaller than the plastic body, so i had to file them a little bigger to get the gauge to fit.

Since the bottom two holes are partially covered by the cluster body, the gauge has to be put in from the back. This required removing the plastic lip on the front of the gauge body.




Also, since the OD of the gauge body is actually bigger at the front than the back, the gauge has to be squeezed slightly to get it to fit into original hole. I left the gauge internals out of the body so I wouldn't damage them. Once the body was in, the internals can go back in.



I'm going to pant that white ring black to gain the two tone original look. I am also considering painting the middle of the gauge black similar to how my hand drawing was, but im not sure if i want to loose the labels in the center of the gauge.

Here is the gauge and ring in with a print out of my CAD drawing. The measurement of this hole appears to be correct. My next move will be to file the upper left hole to get the gauge in and check my spacing on the holes.

 
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