Notices
1968-Present E-Series Van/Cutaway/Chassis Econolines. E150, E250, E350, E450 and E550

E250 won't shut off

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 23, 2015 | 10:38 AM
  #1  
Ofourcobra's Avatar
Ofourcobra
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
E250 won't shut off

Hey guys long time reader first time poster , I have a 2012 e250 with 33,000 miles that stays running when I turn back ignition and remove key , I've tried to pull out the ignition harness and the truck remains running , so I guess that rules out the ignition . I'm guessing that there is a relay or something stuck somewhere that is keeping the ignition circuit energized. Also when the truck remains running with out key I can put it in drive and driveway with no issues . Please any input would be great
 
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2015 | 10:44 AM
  #2  
JWA's Avatar
JWA
Fleet Owner
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 21,253
Likes: 1,656
From: Reynoldsburg, Ohio
Which wiring harness are you disconnecting?
 
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2015 | 10:56 AM
  #3  
Ofourcobra's Avatar
Ofourcobra
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
The big gray one under the column that has all the ignition wires that go to the ignition
 
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2015 | 11:21 AM
  #4  
JWA's Avatar
JWA
Fleet Owner
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 21,253
Likes: 1,656
From: Reynoldsburg, Ohio
When exactly does the van shut off or what's done to stop it?
 
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2015 | 11:37 AM
  #5  
Ofourcobra's Avatar
Ofourcobra
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
I left it running the other night but usually I'll drive it and it will work fine for a while. But I haven't really had success with getting it to shut off . And it doesn't matter if it's a short or long drive it happens randomly
 
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2015 | 11:45 AM
  #6  
JWA's Avatar
JWA
Fleet Owner
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 21,253
Likes: 1,656
From: Reynoldsburg, Ohio
I was about to suggest it was the sliding portion of the ignition switch itself but since pulling the chassis wiring harness connector doesn't shut it off this is very, very confusing.

If you're able to access the switch itself and try manipulating it without the key cylinder lock rod checking if that has any effect. If not something beyond my understanding is causing this.

One would think removing the electrical path would cause a shut down.
 
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2015 | 11:49 AM
  #7  
Ford'05HG's Avatar
Ford'05HG
Elder User
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 995
Likes: 0
Is this a gas or diesel? And when you pull the key does anything go off, i.e. radio, air conditioning?

This is a strange one. How long have you had the truck? Is it used? Could be some tricky custom wiring if so. Now a days the fuel pump should kill the engine when the key is cut unless it was wired around the ignition.
 
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2015 | 11:52 AM
  #8  
Ofourcobra's Avatar
Ofourcobra
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
Yes every thing shuts off normally except the van itself
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-2

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-6

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-9

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
Old Jan 23, 2015 | 12:10 PM
  #9  
Ford'05HG's Avatar
Ford'05HG
Elder User
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 995
Likes: 0
Hmm.. Im gonna need you to answer a little more of my question. Are you the only one that has owned this van? Do you see anything when you look around under the dash or hood that doesn't look like factory installed wiring?

I had a expedition that I installed a custom remote start on and in the winter it would start my truck sometimes when the outside temp got to a specified temp to charge the battery. I had to turn this off but the system deteriorated at some point and I couldn't control it anymore, but it had full control over my engine.

If you have a manual, check it and pull some relays. Do them one at a time so you can hopefully find which system is faulting. I would start with fuel system and then ignition, mainly because the the fuel system would normally be first to need repairs.
 
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2015 | 12:14 PM
  #10  
Ofourcobra's Avatar
Ofourcobra
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
Yes I should have stated I did car audio for ten years so I did check for any modifications and yes there is a remote starter installed but I have isolated it since the problem started to rule out any doubt . Also I purchased the van used with 9,000 miles on it from a ford dealer . It looks like the van used to be a UHAUL van based on the running boards. Also it's a gas engine 4.6 liter
 
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2015 | 12:28 PM
  #11  
Ford'05HG's Avatar
Ford'05HG
Elder User
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 995
Likes: 0
This is gonna be a tough one..

I say you should go try pulling fuses and relays related to the engine and even the ignition switch itself to see if anything changes, then report back here and we can do a little more research. Be sure to take note of how long, if at all, it takes the engine to shut off and what you did that caused it to shut down.

Also, can you start the thing back up if you can get it to shut down? And does unpluging the battery help? If so you may just need to go get a starter solenoid and put it not the battery, then put a switch on the dash to kill the connection for the time being until we can solve your problem.
 
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2015 | 12:33 PM
  #12  
Ofourcobra's Avatar
Ofourcobra
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
It always starts back up fine , I did try to pull the battery cables and nothing because I would assume the truck is running off of the alternator at that point . I have gone through the manual and noted all relays that have anything to do with ignition or start or run . I've had to shut it off a few times and it's been fine this afternoon but I'm sure it will do it again at any moment
 
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2015 | 12:51 PM
  #13  
Ford'05HG's Avatar
Ford'05HG
Elder User
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 995
Likes: 0
This is very interesting. I'm gonna see if I can recruit some help on this one as I am stumped.
 
Reply
Old Jan 26, 2015 | 12:56 AM
  #14  
Ford'05HG's Avatar
Ford'05HG
Elder User
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 995
Likes: 0
Are you still experiencing the issue?
 
Reply
Old Jan 26, 2015 | 08:32 PM
  #15  
tx2sturgis's Avatar
tx2sturgis
Elder User
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 504
Likes: 3
From: West Texas
Question

Thats got to be a sticking or shorted relay.

What exactly do you do to get the van to shut off? Or does it stay running in your driveway for hours?

Weird.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:30 PM.

story-0
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-1
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-2
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-3
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-6
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE