Help with Towing Capacities
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Help with Towing Capacities
I have a 2014 F250 Lariat Diesel with a Crew Cab. The placard on the drivers side door says a GVWR of 10,000 pounds. With my truck it is my understanding the payload should be around 3000 pounds.
Today I took it to the weight station to see what my truck weight with fuel and passengers. I weighted both axles with the following results.
Front - 4980
Rear - 3440
Total - 8420
This number seemed too high so I did a re-weigh with both axles on one scale. The following result was 8440.
I had a combined passenger weight of 420 pounds for 4 people and a full tank of gas. I have an aftermarket bed cover that weighs 45 pounds but that is it! I weighed my truck on CAT Scale at Flying J.
These numbers seem too high. I was going to go to another weight station sometime but wanted to know peoples' input as well. Am I doing something wrong? I would expect a payload with my setup to be around 2,300 pounds.
Thanks,
Ryan
Today I took it to the weight station to see what my truck weight with fuel and passengers. I weighted both axles with the following results.
Front - 4980
Rear - 3440
Total - 8420
This number seemed too high so I did a re-weigh with both axles on one scale. The following result was 8440.
I had a combined passenger weight of 420 pounds for 4 people and a full tank of gas. I have an aftermarket bed cover that weighs 45 pounds but that is it! I weighed my truck on CAT Scale at Flying J.
These numbers seem too high. I was going to go to another weight station sometime but wanted to know peoples' input as well. Am I doing something wrong? I would expect a payload with my setup to be around 2,300 pounds.
Thanks,
Ryan
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Look.on the b pillar if it is similar too my 05´. On the tire information sticker it will say max payload. Mine it's 10,000 GVWR and the tire info sticker states 2317lbs for payload. Your passengers go against your payload anything in the truck bed or cab is payload. All the fancy stuff that makes it a lariat also adds up. You also have very slim for persons our like me have the wife, a 7 and 6yr old and myself. Last time I went across scales with me and the wife and half tank of fuel the truck was 7640 I also only have an xlt and no accessories.
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One more time...
The 10K GVWR, is an arbitrary number to keep the truck below the 10,001 pound threshold at which the feds consider the truck a commercial vehicle. The payload rating follows this.
I tow for a living with my F250, and the way I look at it is so long as I do not exceed the GAWR, Gross Axle Weight Rating, then all is well.
Look on that same sticker where the GVWR is shown and it will have the GAWR on there.
The 10K GVWR, is an arbitrary number to keep the truck below the 10,001 pound threshold at which the feds consider the truck a commercial vehicle. The payload rating follows this.
I tow for a living with my F250, and the way I look at it is so long as I do not exceed the GAWR, Gross Axle Weight Rating, then all is well.
Look on that same sticker where the GVWR is shown and it will have the GAWR on there.
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One more time...
The 10K GVWR, is an arbitrary number to keep the truck below the 10,001 pound threshold at which the feds consider the truck a commercial vehicle. The payload rating follows this.
I tow for a living with my F250, and the way I look at it is so long as I do not exceed the GAWR, Gross Axle Weight Rating, then all is well.
Look on that same sticker where the GVWR is shown and it will have the GAWR on there.
The 10K GVWR, is an arbitrary number to keep the truck below the 10,001 pound threshold at which the feds consider the truck a commercial vehicle. The payload rating follows this.
I tow for a living with my F250, and the way I look at it is so long as I do not exceed the GAWR, Gross Axle Weight Rating, then all is well.
Look on that same sticker where the GVWR is shown and it will have the GAWR on there.
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My 06 250 sc sb sits at 7200 lbs on the scale with me in it and and half tank of gas.my buddys 08 350 cc sb sits 7900 on the scale.
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Look.on the b pillar if it is similar too my 05´. On the tire information sticker it will say max weight. Mine it's 10,000 GVWR and I believe 2317lbs for payload. With yours being allot newer and a F350 your just about spot on. Your passengers go against your payload anything in the truck bed or cab is payload. All the fancy stuff that makes it a lariat also adds up. You also have very slim for persons our like me have the wife, a 7 and 6yr old and myself.
If I look up my truck in a brochure it'll say 5380lbs payload, whereas the tire sticker on the door says 4995lbs payload. I'd imagine if I had it weighed there may be even less payload.
Your numbers are spot on for a F-250. Plus the other poster who was talking about GAWR is saying that the axle rating is 6100lbs and from the scale you would just subtract you rear axle weight number to arrive at the max payload for the rear axle. As long as you could make sure it loads over the axle.
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go by the axle ratings and tire ratings. Whichever is less. that is the best way to run. The sticker is nothing more than for registration purposes. I had my F250 registered for 12K. I rountinely traveled with 3K pin wt with my 5er. Rear axle came in around 5900 lbs.
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I'm sorry, I don't agree with you. My GAWR for the rear axle is 6100 pounds. There is no way I would tow anything with a 3000 pound pin weight let alone a 6100 pound pin weight. If you look at Ford's Specifications the F250 Crew Cab should have a payload of around 3000 dry.
And I definitely never said anything about a 6100 pound pin weight.
All I said was you are okay up to the gross axle weight rating.
And I think if you look at ferds payload rating for your F250, it will be around 2300 pounds.
But, it's your truck and you do as you wish.
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Unless I am mistaken these packages (10,000 lb. and 11,400 lb.) exist to allow owners in certain states to not have to pay a higher insurance/registration rate because the state bases the fee(s) on GVWR.
The internals of the vehicle aren't any different, so it has the same payload capacity as a truck without the reduced GVWR on the sticker. However, if you get pulled over, you could be cited for violating your GVWR- which could end up forcing you to pay the difference in your previous registration fees (not to mention that the insurance company might get perturbed and drop you).
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Unless I am mistaken these packages (10,000 lb. and 11,400 lb.) exist to allow owners in certain states to not have to pay a higher insurance/registration rate because the state bases the fee(s) on GVWR.
The internals of the vehicle aren't any different, so it has the same payload capacity as a truck without the reduced GVWR on the sticker. However, if you get pulled over, you could be cited for violating your GVWR- which could end up forcing you to pay the difference in your previous registration fees (not to mention that the insurance company might get perturbed and drop you).
-Kaw-Liga.
The internals of the vehicle aren't any different, so it has the same payload capacity as a truck without the reduced GVWR on the sticker. However, if you get pulled over, you could be cited for violating your GVWR- which could end up forcing you to pay the difference in your previous registration fees (not to mention that the insurance company might get perturbed and drop you).
-Kaw-Liga.
Register it for the weight you want and stay within the axle/tire ratings.
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I don't understand what it is you disagree with.
And I definitely never said anything about a 6100 pound pin weight.
All I said was you are okay up to the gross axle weight rating.
And I think if you look at ferds payload rating for your F250, it will be around 2300 pounds.
But, it's your truck and you do as you wish.
And I definitely never said anything about a 6100 pound pin weight.
All I said was you are okay up to the gross axle weight rating.
And I think if you look at ferds payload rating for your F250, it will be around 2300 pounds.
But, it's your truck and you do as you wish.
It sounds like I could just get my truck reregistered for a GWVR higher than 10,000? If that is the case I would be willing to pay the extra fees to know I was 100% legal in the case of an accident. Does that make sense? Does anyone know if I can reregister for higher than 10,000? if so, what is the max? I'm just disappointed after stepping off the scale I only have 1,800 payload.
Thanks everyone!
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GVWR is the RATING put on the truck by the manufacturer, not the total actual capacity the truck is capable of, that would be the total of the axle weight ratings.
Don't know where you are, but in Texas you can register your truck for whatever gross weight you wish, my truck is registered for 26,000, which is the legal max for me to operate with my class C license.
Don't know where you are, but in Texas you can register your truck for whatever gross weight you wish, my truck is registered for 26,000, which is the legal max for me to operate with my class C license.