Help with Towing Capacities
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From: Frederick, MD
Where I am you can register for whatever you want as well.
Did you see my post earlier? I ran a 12K registration on my 08 F250.
Anything over 10K you will need to self certify the safety of the truck. No big deal just a form to sign.
Did you see my post earlier? I ran a 12K registration on my 08 F250.
Anything over 10K you will need to self certify the safety of the truck. No big deal just a form to sign.
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Thanks for all the info. I spoke with the BMV, Ohio State Highway Patrol and Licensing Standardsof Ohio. The OSP said the only thing the State of Ohio cares about is tire and axle weight. When I asked him about getting into an accident and being sued because I was over the GVWR he didn't have an answer. Think I'll consult an attorney next. My agent said no mater what I would be covered. He said he wasn't refering to me but they cover STUPID. He was surprised with my questions since he has never been asked this before in the 40 years of being an agent. Regardless someone can be sued for anything. The real question I'm trying to find out now is if I register the truck for GVWR of 11,500, would I get in trouble if pulled over or an accident. According to OSP I would be fine but not sure if accident occured. Excuse typos. On mobile. As many of u stated I didn't go with the F350 because I thought there was no difference when u look at towing capacities. I've learned an expensive lesson.
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Where can I find this self certify form?
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From: Melbourne, Ky
I believe the self-certify thing is by state. I've never heard of them here in Ky. I have seen guys running commercial with their 3/4 and 1 ton trucks with 26,000lb plates and above. I even saw a guy with an 80,000lb tag on a dodge 3500. That guy was not the sharpest tool in the box either.
Like Senix said, go by tire and axle ratings, along with the braking ability.
Like Senix said, go by tire and axle ratings, along with the braking ability.
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As I have stated, I tow heavy a LOT with my F250, and I'm legal everywhere I go so long as the trailer I am towing is not over 16K GVWR. The heaviest actual trailer weight I have ever pulled was just under 14K because I never tow anything but new trailers with nothing extra in them, but I would be completely comfortable towing right up to that 16K gross trailer weight if I needed to.
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What do you plan on towing to push you past the 10,000 GVW mark ? As already stated that's not how much you can tow just that the Truck with the pin weight of the trailer cannot exceed 10,000 pounds. My F250 has a GVW of 8800 pounds and with my 10,000 pound fifth wheel I am not over my GVW..
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What do you plan on towing to push you past the 10,000 GVW mark ? As already stated that's not how much you can tow just that the Truck with the pin weight of the trailer cannot exceed 10,000 pounds. My F250 has a GVW of 8800 pounds and with my 10,000 pound fifth wheel I am not over my GVW..
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Your are so close that I would think some strategic cargo loading should get you right where you need to be. Personally I would not exceed your GAWR or your GVW , you can register it for anything you want but when it comes down to it if you get sued and you are over the LEGAL numbers that are on your door pillar a good lawyer will clean you out but good..
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Your are so close that I would think some strategic cargo loading should get you right where you need to be. Personally I would not exceed your GAWR or your GVW , you can register it for anything you want but when it comes down to it if you get sued and you are over the LEGAL numbers that are on your door pillar a good lawyer will clean you out but good..
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You might want to check out the factory ratings.
http://www.ford.com/resources/ford/g...typu_sep11.pdf
According to this, your hauling capacity is under 2000 pounds.
http://www.ford.com/resources/ford/g...typu_sep11.pdf
According to this, your hauling capacity is under 2000 pounds.
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You might want to check out the factory ratings.
http://www.ford.com/resources/ford/g...typu_sep11.pdf
According to this, your hauling capacity is under 2000 pounds.
http://www.ford.com/resources/ford/g...typu_sep11.pdf
According to this, your hauling capacity is under 2000 pounds.
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GVWR is not an indication of towing capacities....as your thread title is asking.....when you tow...you introduce more axles and those axles add to your tow capacity. Your vehicle spec's have a published max towing capacity based on engine, type of drive (2wd or 4wd), and rear gear ratio
GVWR is useful for max payload. take the GVWR and subtract your no payload weight and thats your payload. I say no payload becuase adding batteries adds weigth...going from steel rims to alloy reduces weight...adding a bed cover adds weight...adding a fifth wheel adds wight...etc.
If you are trying to figure out 5th wheel weight limits by determining your approx payload avail weight thats tricky becuase your trailer angle can increase or decrease your trailer weight distribution. A lot of folks use 20% of their trailer load as a guide to estimate the tounge weight.
GVWR is useful for max payload. take the GVWR and subtract your no payload weight and thats your payload. I say no payload becuase adding batteries adds weigth...going from steel rims to alloy reduces weight...adding a bed cover adds weight...adding a fifth wheel adds wight...etc.
If you are trying to figure out 5th wheel weight limits by determining your approx payload avail weight thats tricky becuase your trailer angle can increase or decrease your trailer weight distribution. A lot of folks use 20% of their trailer load as a guide to estimate the tounge weight.
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You might want to check out the factory ratings.
http://www.ford.com/resources/ford/g...typu_sep11.pdf
According to this, your hauling capacity is under 2000 pounds.
http://www.ford.com/resources/ford/g...typu_sep11.pdf
According to this, your hauling capacity is under 2000 pounds.
It also shows that a 4x2 can haul four hundred more pounds the a 4x4. In the fifth wheel category. I wonder why? Seems to me they should be the same. Huummmm