Hi my name is Ian. I joined this thread because I need help and thought it was about time to have a place I can look stuff up and learn more. I picked up what I was told was a 351w. Its doesn't seem to be one. I looked up the casting number locations and noticed mine are at the front right of the motor. I looked them up and can't seem to find any info on them.
The numbers on the block are.
77
Etc 6015c
Doesn't make sense to me.
The numbers on the heads are
Dif
Etc
609c.
None of these make sense to me.
I can update with pictures if need be. It is a 5 bolt rounded valve cover.
Any help would be great

 

5 bolts is an FE.

Does the intake manifold extend under the valve covers? That's an FE.

Or, are the valve covers shaped like a trapzoid? /===\ ? That could be a 351W.

Pictures may help.

More on casting numbers here:

Kelly hotrod - Ford Engines Page 4

FE motors will have C and D as the first letter in the casting codes, for the most part. There are 1950s motors out there, and they have the early rounded valve covers. Are your rounded valve covers like these--no oil fill and no PCV?

http://thumbs4.ebaystatic.com/d/l225...h2-fsabiCA.jpg

 

This is the only picture I have right now. I'm not home yet

 

OK that is an FE motor. Plugs //\\ is also an FE only deal.

The valve covers are the '66 and up type, being pentroof with an oil fill and PCV hole. And it appears the block has the '66 & up Ford blue paint, which the entire engine would have been as OEM.

I can't make out the casting numbers, maybe someone else can.

The 352 was still available in '66 and '67, which could lead someone to call it a 351. Same bore and stroke, but very different engines.

If you can pull a plug, you can measure the stroke with a wire down the plug hole at TDC vs. BDC.

What are you wanting to do with this engine?

 

When I get back to the house tomorrow I will do some measuring. I'm not sure what to do with the motor at this point. I have a 351w and a 302 ho. The 5.0 ho is one I'm building for my brothers truck. I want to build a motor for an f100 I plan to get around tax time. I know a lot about the 302 and 351 but this one in the picture looks different. I don't know anything about the fe motors. What is an fe motor. The head looks similar to the head of a sohc Honda civic motor I built couple months ago.
Any info u can give about what an fe motor is could help.

 

So I ended up taking the heads off the motor and did some measuring. It appears that the bore is 4.10. And the stoke 3.75. Which I looked up and says that is a 406. Now to be sure of the bore I'm going to pull one piston and measure the piston with a mic.

 

Probably not a 406. Those were 4.13 x 3.784, and were last produced in '63.

Your stroke is probably 3.784". The stock 390 bore is 4.05", so I would bet you have a 390, maybe one with an overbore already.

The head looks like the SOHC Honda? The Honda has a camshaft up there. What you are seeing is the shaft which holds the rockers. This is a pushrod motor, just like your 302/351w. (Ford made a SOHC 427 FE, but this isn't one...)

The FE motor was intro'd in '58. High performance versions in various displacements were around from nearly the beginning. The 406 and 427 were the real performers. Most performance parts can be used on other FE motors. The aftermarket has stroker kits, heads, headers, etc, etc, and you can make a real fire breather out of most FE motors. More here:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/2...questions.html

That said, it is a different and more expensive, and heavier motor than the 302 or 351W. Those engines are easy to work on and have major aftermarket and even factory part support that is less expensive than FE parts etc. And a different bell pattern, so you can't just bolt it up where plucked out a 302/351W.

FE's are good motors. Do you want another hobby?


An excellent source for aftermarket parts, build examples, and complete FE overload:

Survival Motorsports Home Page

 

I understand that a sohc Honda motor is different. I'm saying the rocker arms look like the Honda motor I built and I know the cam is inside the block and the push rods are there. I'm going to take out a piston and measure to make sure. I'm out in the garage now moving some stuff around so when I take of the other head I can wrap them up and store them. Its going to suck when I move this month to my new house cause I now have 3 motors pulled a part and I have to move them.

 

i would have to agree on the 390 also. they are a dime a dozen.the 406 is almost as rare as a 427 DOHC engine these days.

 

Ok I got the heads off. I can tell this was a running motor. It's pretty clean motor. The guy that owned it didn't know what it was. I work at a commercial truck center here in Florida and a buddy of mine is always hitting me up for side work and he called me with this motor he pulled. Pretty good deal I think.

 

Ok I have the final measurements. The piston measured 4.013
And the stroke measured 3.78. I'm not sure what It Is.
From the measurements on a different forum it's like a mix of a 352 and a 390.

 

well ,the bore would be a 10 over 352, but the stroke comes back for 390.
so my guess is a 10 over 352 with a 390 crank in it to make it a bit of a stroker.

 

If that was the case would that be why this crank won't turn. Got everything off and out of the block but the crank and Pistons. Even got the main caps out and it won't rotate.

 

DOHC would be really rare.....SOHC is rare enough.

 

A 390 crank in a 352 would not be an issue but would require a non-stock piston to maintain compression height. Might be a bit unusual for someone to do that.

If the rods are still connected, you could have a tight, rusted or seized piston that prevents rotation. Flywheel or flex plate interference is another possibility.