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Old Dec 19, 2014 | 03:33 PM
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All: I got the sad news today that my '04 Excursion has 0 compression in the number 1 and 2 cylinders. Any advice on next steps. I really like the truck. Got 240,000 miles on this first engine. I am located in the Dallas/Fort Worth area.
 

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Old Dec 19, 2014 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Burgundy88
All: I got the sad news today that my '04 Excursion has 0 compression in the number 1 and 2 cylinders. Any advice on next steps. I really like the truck. Got 240,000 miles on this first engine. I am located in the Dallas/Fort Worth area.
Send Cheezit a PM and see if he has any words of advice for you. He can, most likely, put you on the right path since he's from the DFW area.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2014 | 04:08 PM
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You can always do it yourself and make a thread out of it and get some of the best advise right here at FTE!
 
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Old Dec 19, 2014 | 04:41 PM
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You can always do it yourself and make a thread out of it and get some of the best advise right here at FTE!
Ditto X2, Cheezit and many others.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2014 | 04:51 PM
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DYI

I'd like to do it myself, but 10 hour days at work and 3 special needs children don't leave enough time.
 

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Old Dec 19, 2014 | 06:27 PM
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Get it to Super Duty Service........best care anywhere.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2014 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Per4mance
Get it to Super Duty Service........best care anywhere.
You know it would be fun to have a truck setup and go pick things
up to take in for Anthony to work on. You would get to see a lot of
new places. Something like a nice gooseneck flatbed and a good winch.

But what licenses would one need for something like that? Would
that make you a tow truck driver or just a private carrier service?
Then there is the crossing stat lines to deal with. Rules,Rules and
all that PaperWork.

Sean
 
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Old Dec 19, 2014 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Yahiko
You know it would be fun to have a truck setup and go pick things
up to take in for Anthony to work on. You would get to see a lot of
new places. Something like a nice gooseneck flatbed and a good winch.

But what licenses would one need for something like that? Would
that make you a tow truck driver or just a private carrier service?
Then there is the crossing stat lines to deal with. Rules,Rules and
all that PaperWork.

Sean
It would be fun! You would be considered commercial, would need a DOT number, health card, get inspected, and keep logs. Or, you just say you are doing it for you.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2014 | 02:37 AM
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I did mine myself. Not easy, but doable if you have an IQ equivalent or higher than mine. Higher would definitely help.
2 dead cylinders... head gaskets? Not likely on opposite sides. Who did the compression test? Many more questions, but it's 1:30 and I'm beddy bound.
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Old Dec 20, 2014 | 07:38 AM
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its odd that you lost 2 holes at the same time. What did the cylinders look like?
 
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Could be as simple as burnt valves or a bent push rod or 2. I would ask that the heads be removed if not done already, chances are the lower end is still good, they are pretty stout.

Unless of course that truck had a tuner on it and its been run hard its whole life, but I suspect that its in the top end.

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Ford Dealer did the diagnostic saying the 1 and 2 cylinders were at zero and recommended a new engine, I said thanks, picked it up an drove it home. It smoked on the drive home, whereas, I saw no smoke before. I will be reaching out to a local shop this week. I need this fix to be around 5k or the truck will be deadlined until I get a tax refund.
 

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Ford Dealer did the diagnostic saying the 1 and 2 cylinders were at zero and recommended a new engine, I said thanks, picked it up an drove it home. It smoked on the drive home, whereas, I saw no smoke before. I will be reaching out to a local shop this week. I need this fix to be around 5k or the truck will be deadlined until I get a tax refund.
Tax refund? What is that lol.
 
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Originally Posted by Burgundy88
All: I got the sad news today that my '04 Excursion has 0 compression in the number 1 and 2 cylinders. Any advice on next steps. I really like the truck. Got 240,000 miles on this first engine. I am located in the Dallas/Fort Worth area.
Strange for the front cylinders on opposite sides to be dead. I think a cylinder leakdown test is in order to tell more of the story. Pressurized the cylinders at TDC compression stroke and see where the leak is. Open valves, burnt/melted pistons, and rings are a few things to suspect. A bore scope in the glow plug hole for inspection could be helpful too.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2014 | 10:54 PM
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I was thinking maybe a wiped out cam intake lobe.
But you would still get some compression even
if the lobe was totally gone. The pressure from the exhaust
would fill the cylinder some. But who knows how they did
the testing. Come of been an inferred test with the IDS.
No a real compression test. A wiped out lobe would easy to identify.
Just remove the valve cover and measure the lift at the valves.

I am the type of person that likes to know just why something failed.
So even if you were going to pull the engine and stuff a replacement in
I would still disassemble this part way to get to the cause.


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