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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 10:03 PM
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Does anybody have a cam recommendation for 351w? I'm rebuilding the original engine in a 1985 F150 4X4, stock converter, as cast heads, stock compression (I'm thinking around 9 to 1) 4V and 3:50 gear. I'm not looking for anything radical but just something to give me a little more power over the stock grind.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 10:20 PM
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Stock compression on this motor was about 8.3 to 1 due mainly to the 69cc chambers in the stock heads, if you want to do a little better than that swap on some late model E7TE or GT40 heads to bring compression up to 9:1 give or take. Consider the Comp cams 35-234-3 or 35-238-3 with new lifters and springs.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 10:56 PM
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Stock compression on this motor was about 8.3 to 1 due mainly to the 69cc chambers in the stock heads, if you want to do a little better than that swap on some late model E7TE or GT40 heads to bring compression up to 9:1 give or take. Consider the Comp cams 35-234-3 or 35-238-3 with new lifters and springs.
I've been meaning to ask you this for a while. I noticed you recommend a XE256H (35-234-3) for most of these mild/stock applications. Any reason why you recommend that vs the slightly smaller XE250H with less overlap? just curious and I'd like to hear your input.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 10:59 PM
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Ok thanks! . I got this truck for $600 so me and my 12 year old son are going to fix it up. As a seasoned SBC guy this SBF thing is all new. How hard are those heads to come by? Does one flow better than the other? Thanks again!!
 
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 11:01 PM
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E7 heads will come from a 1987-1993 I believe SBF. GT40 heads usually come off of Mustangs or late model Exploders. Someone can explain the years of those as they know better than I. There is a GT40P model head as well that has the sparkplug in a different angle than the standard GT40. You will have header clearance issues with those heads, due to the sparkplugs with most headers. Just a note, 302 heads use 7/16 head bolts and 351W heads use 1/2" head bolts. So, if you use 302 heads on a 351W you'll have to drill the head bolt holes out.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 07:07 PM
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I will check them out. Thanks for the help!!
 
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I've been meaning to ask you this for a while. I noticed you recommend a XE256H (35-234-3) for most of these mild/stock applications. Any reason why you recommend that vs the slightly smaller XE250H with less overlap? just curious and I'd like to hear your input.
Most guys want a little more cam sound out of these builds and the slightly more aggressive cam will deliver that along with perhaps a touch more torque, but I doubt there would be enough difference in power between these two to feel from the drivers seat. If a person wanted a smoother idle the XE250H would be the better choice.
 
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Originally Posted by Conanski
Most guys want a little more cam sound out of these builds and the slightly more aggressive cam will deliver that along with perhaps a touch more torque, but I doubt there would be enough difference in power between these two to feel from the drivers seat. If a person wanted a smoother idle the XE250H would be the better choice.
I've got the XE250H and love it. Super fast throttle response, lots of low end torque, really hauls this truck when you floor it and it gets up in to the 3000-4500 RPM range. Yet it idles so smooth most of the time you can't feel it.
 
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E7TE heads were found on most 5.0 and 5.8 motors from 1987 until the end of production, that includes all trucks except the Lightning and most Mustangs, T-birds and other 5.0 cars. The exceptions are.

1986-1991 Crown Vic/Town Car: E6SE head(Junk)
1996-1997.5 Explorer/Mountaineer: F1ZE GT40 head
1993-1995 Mustang Cobra: F3ZE and F4ZE GT40 heads
1993-1995 F150 Lightning: F1ZE or F3ZE GT40 heads
1997.5-2000 Explorer/Mountaineer: F7ZE GT40P head
 
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Old Nov 21, 2014 | 08:23 AM
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Conan - Reps to you for that.

Nova406 - The GT40 heads vary in combustion chamber size. Use a compression ratio calculator to check which ones will work for you. You probably shouldn't go above 9.5:1 or you will have detonation problems and will also have to run premium gas.
 
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