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Jul 16, 2003 | 07:28 PM

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V10 vs. 460

What are the Hp and torque numbers (peek and what RPM) for the V10 vs. the 460?

Jul 16, 2003 | 07:39 PM

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I know the peak Hp for the V-10 is 325 stock and the Torque is 425 ft-lbs. stock. I not sure about the 460.

Jul 16, 2003 | 08:14 PM

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Found this on the net, so I don't know how accurate it is:

1996 7.5 (460 ci) 245 hp @ 4000 rpm 400 ft/lb @ 2200 rpm

1995 7.5 (460 ci) 245 hp @ 4000 rpm 400 ft/lb @ 2200 rpm

1994 7.5 (460 ci) 230 hp @ 3600 rpm 390 ft/lb @ 2200 rpm

1993 7.5 (460 ci) 230 hp @ 3600 rpm 390 ft/lb @ 2200 rpm

1992 7.5 (460 ci) 230 hp @ 3600 rpm 390 ft/lb @ 2200 rpm

Jul 16, 2003 | 08:50 PM

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V10 vs. 460

That looks right to me.

The V10 is 310hp 425tq

Jul 16, 2003 | 08:54 PM

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1996 7.5 (460 ci) 245 hp @ 4000 rpm 400 ft/lb @ 2200 rpm

The current V10 even makes it's peak torque at lower rpm.

425lb-ft@3250rpm. Heck it makes 400lb-ft at 1900rpm. I always thought the 460 had it's peak output at lower rpm than the V10. Nice to see I was wrong on that!

Jul 16, 2003 | 09:08 PM

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The current V10 even makes it's peak torque at lower rpm.

425lb-ft@3250rpm. Heck it makes 400lb-ft at 1900rpm. I always thought the 460 had it's peak output at lower rpm than the V10. Nice to see I was wrong on that!

How do you figure the V10 makes it's peak torque at lower rpm? The peak of the 460 is 2200 rpm and the V10 is 3250 rpm. The 460 makes it's peak torque at lower rpm, but the V10 produces more torque and peaks more than 1000 rpm higher.

Jul 16, 2003 | 09:21 PM

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How do you figure the V10 makes it's peak torque at lower rpm? The peak of the 460 is 2200 rpm and the V10 is 3250 rpm. The 460 makes it's peak torque at lower rpm, but the V10 produces more torque and peaks more than 1000 rpm higher.

Sorry I wasn't very clear-see if this makes my point. I mean the V10 matches the 460's peak torque of 400lb-ft and does it at lower rpm. In other words the V10 has more low rpm output than the 460 with an extra 25lb-ft left to spare up at 3250rpm.

V10 makes 400lb-ft at 1900rpm and peaks at 425lb-ft@3250rpm.
460 peaks at 400lb-ft at 2200.

The V10 also matches the 460s peak hp of 245hp@4000rpm at a much lower and workable rpm of about 2800rpm.

Of course I'm assuming your data is accurate. People are fond of pointing out the deficiencies of high rpm peak outputs for truck engines but there's a whole curve to consider.

And the V10's curve is surpisingly flat for a gasoline engine. It makes at least 400lb-ft of flywheel torque from 1900rpm all the way up to about 4100rpm.

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Jul 17, 2003 | 07:29 AM

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People are fond of pointing out the deficiencies of high rpm peak outputs for truck engines but there's a whole curve to consider.

I totally agree. I was trying to point out that your statement was not true though. The V10 does not make peak torque lower than the 460 does. The whole torque curve should be considered. A perfect example is the new 6.0 Power Stroke. Even though the peak torque is at a higher rpm than the 7.3, it makes at least the same amount of torque as the 7.3 all the way through the torque curve.

Jul 17, 2003 | 09:19 PM

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V10 vs. 460

Having owned both 460's and V10, I was a little disappointed in the V10 with the 3.73 axle ratio. I thought with the higher horsepower and more torque it would be better than my 460 in pulling power. The 460 had a 4.10 rear axle and was a towing monster, pulled 10,000lbs like it was meant to. The first time I pulled the same weight with the V10 and the 3.73 axle I thought the engine had died. Had to put a 4.30 in the V10 to have it pull as well as the 460. If a guy would put the 4.30 in the 460 engine I wonder if the V10 would be put to shame. 460 cubes vs 415 can't be a comparison.
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Jul 18, 2003 | 12:44 PM

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V10 vs. 460

I had an older 4 door 4x4 460 w4.10:1 Ford truck and will agree that it was a pulling machine!

But pound for pound the V10 is a significantly heavier truck (close to 1700lbs heavier) and with a smaller 415ci size into 3.73:1 gears with 31"tires getting better MPG V10 12-14 vs V8 8-10, is very impressive.

I agree if pulling at max or over max CGVW then the 4.30:1 are better gears but I haul fairly close to 80% max weight with 3.73s and still can zoom down the Freeway and climb any Mountain pass with ease!