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Old Oct 25, 2014 | 04:09 PM
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NO START, please help

Just traded in my 03 dually and picked up this 07, 350 114K


Drove it right home from the dealer... shut the truck off and went to start it up 10 min's later.... Only turns over and doesn't fire.


I have a scangauge
KOEO- 48 volts
Turning over 47.5 Volts


There is fuel in the tank


Any thoughts of where I go next?
 
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Old Oct 25, 2014 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by yasky69
Just traded in my 03 dually and picked up this 07, 350 114K


Drove it right home from the dealer... shut the truck off and went to start it up 10 min's later.... Only turns over and doesn't fire.


I have a scangauge
KOEO- 48 volts
Turning over 47.5 Volts


There is fuel in the tank


Any thoughts of where I go next?
What is the ICP pressure while cranking when it wont start? Likely a HPO leak. Once running and warm ( at 185-190* ECT ) what is the IPR% at idle? Let the engine cool for a bit and try it again, it will probably start.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2014 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by mustang_309
What is the ICP pressure while cranking when it wont start? Likely a HPO leak. Once running and warm ( at 185-190* ECT ) what is the IPR% at idle? Let the engine cool for a bit and try it again, it will probably start.

I'll let it sit for a half hour and try again. If it works I'll get that information and post it.
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Old Oct 25, 2014 | 04:52 PM
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It did start


IPR Key on 14.83
Turning over went to 24.81 to 84
Idle its at 23


ICP 582
FLP 12.5
Volt 12.5
Map 14.2
EOT 180
ECT 176
 
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Old Oct 25, 2014 | 05:24 PM
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Nice looking truck,Your voltage is low,how long was it running to get those pids?
 
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Old Oct 25, 2014 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Per4mance
Nice looking truck,Your voltage is low,how long was it running to get those pids?


Thank you, I love this truck ... just gotta figure this out


At that point 10 min's. I just drove the truck to get it fueled up. For the past 30 min's it hasn't been shut down. Once I got home I shut it down.... same thing... won't start.


IPR while turning over was the same as I listed above. No change while hot.
May be a battery problem?
 
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Old Oct 25, 2014 | 05:37 PM
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Charge the batteries and I think your going to need a alternator to start with.Did you get a warranty with that truck?
 
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Old Oct 25, 2014 | 05:41 PM
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Yes, I do have a warranty. I literally just picked it up less than 2 hours ago.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2014 | 05:50 PM
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Bring that sucker back, and find more wrong with it while you're at it. Don't get a different truck, get that one fixed right under their bank
 
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Old Oct 25, 2014 | 05:51 PM
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Do yourself a favor,take it back and tell them to fix it. You got the basic problems known,let them take care of the headaches so you can have that new truck feeling
 
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Old Oct 25, 2014 | 05:56 PM
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I'm definetly taking it back..Just stuck now till Monday.


Funny how it ran fine the entire 2 weeks I was looking at it. Even then it was starting up when the engine was worn.




They ended up putting 4 new tires on, tie rod ends and alignment prior to picking it up. But they will be putting a lot more $$$$ into before I'm done
 
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Old Oct 25, 2014 | 06:01 PM
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Dealers like to fancy the outside up all the time. By warm starting, are you guessing what temperature it was at? It needs to be hot usually to not start unless it's a bad leak.

Either way, hopefully your dealer doesn't give you a fight.

I only ever purchased one truck, my 6.0 out of a different province. Apparently since it passed safety there, and not in my home province it was my issue, a nice 1500$ in ball-joints.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2014 | 06:03 PM
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Put the batteries on low amp charge overnight and load test them separately,but my bet is the alternator is on the way way out
 
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Old Oct 25, 2014 | 06:32 PM
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Id like to take it to Advance Auto to have the batteries and ALT tested, just for my own piece of mind. But if the truck is hit or miss with starting it may not work.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2014 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Jmoen7
Dealers like to fancy the outside up all the time. By warm starting, are you guessing what temperature it was at? It needs to be hot usually to not start unless it's a bad leak.

Either way, hopefully your dealer doesn't give you a fight.

I only ever purchased one truck, my 6.0 out of a different province. Apparently since it passed safety there, and not in my home province it was my issue, a nice 1500$ in ball-joints.




ECT was at 186 when I shut it down


FYI- I watched the volts drop to 10.8 when trying to start
 
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