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I have a 1994 E350 with 4 wheel ABS with dual rear tires (it's a motorhome). I believe the OE ABS Control Module part number is F6UA-2C219EA There is NOT ONE anywhere that I can find and the after market ones (part# ALB1391 by BWD) are no where to be found.
I have found on rock auto that after market part number ABS560066 is available and it says that it replaces OE #F4UZ2C219C and it also says its for a 1994 E350 with duallies and 4 wheel abs. But if you read into the OEM# one starts with F6 and the other F4. I would guess that this is for 4 tires and the other for 6 tires. AND a google search of F4UZ2C219C comes up with modules for 1995 and 1996 EVEN THOUGH rock auto lists theirs under 1994 also.
The whole reason I'm looking to replace this is because I have circuit fault failure codes coming up and I believe it's because of the module. I figure it's because I don't have the correct module to begin with. The one I pulled out was labeled F4UA2C219EG Rock auto says that that part will replace the F4UZ2C219C module but says NOTHING about it replacing the F6UA-2C219EA module.
I see, well that makes since! It just is crazy that I can not buy a ABS control module for a 1994 E350 7.5l dually. Really puts me in a bind because I need ABS in this vehicle and if I take the module completely off I get both an ABS and brake warning light.
I'd post your same question in the Brakes sub-forum here---someone might have specific insight into how best to restore your ABS function with another module.
I have the 3 wheel abs system that they call 4 wheel abs in 1994 Ford E350 chassis. 1994 Coachmen Catalina Sport 220RK with 39,551 miles on it. Mine is not OBD-II compliant either. I have replaced the rear sensor and it was bad. I put the old sensor in my Explorer and the abs light came on. So I bought one for Motor home and put the good one back in my Explorer. Brakes stop fine its just that darn ABS light that bugs me. How did you pull your codes? I looked at all the model E350 vans from 1994-1996 and they all use the same control boxes. If you find a fix let me know please.
Thanks, Andy
Why do you feel you "need" ABS ? The brakes will work fine without it. And with enough driving experience, you'll do just fine without ABS. If you rely on it to stop you on "iffy" road conditions, you need to just stay home.
I would like for mine to work so the light will go out. If not I am going to pull the bulb. There is not a lot of difference in the abs and non abs in my opinion. Like I said the brakes work fine and my RV stop good I think. I was in a car wreck about 2 weeks back and broke my hand and have a cast on it. Doctor told me not to use it for 3 months. Its turned cold now anyway.
Thanks, Andy
Why do you feel you "need" ABS ? The brakes will work fine without it. And with enough driving experience, you'll do just fine without ABS. If you rely on it to stop you on "iffy" road conditions, you need to just stay home.
I CAN NOT STAND IT, when I hear this. Any other vehicle FINE but motorhomes are VERY different. If your driving an RV in "iffy" road conditions and not leaving room then Darwinism is about to win. First let's agree on one thing. Vehicles have approximately a 70% front 30% rear breaking bias. E350 are delivered to motorhome manufactures as a cab and frame rail package. The manufacture puts in the same proportioning valve weather they are sending the E350 to become and ambulance or a motorhome. NOW add 5000 pounds to the rear of the vehicle and now you need more of a 50% front 50% rear bias. It doesn't matter if it's dry, wet, or snowing. My front's will lock at the drop of a hat! It get's more dicy when I've got a full tank of gas, water, and the sewage has yet to be dumped. And if I'm towing a car on a car dolly, I'll stop in the next zip code with flat spots on the fronts.
Go drive a 32 foot 8000 pound motor home in the rain and then come back and tell me you don't need ABS
(FYI I am resorting to an adjustable front rear bias controller since there is not ONE re-manufactured ABS controller out there.)
I CAN NOT STAND IT, when I hear this. Any other vehicle FINE but motorhomes are VERY different. If your driving an RV in "iffy" road conditions and not leaving room then Darwinism is about to win. First let's agree on one thing. Vehicles have approximately a 70% front 30% rear breaking bias. E350 are delivered to motorhome manufactures as a cab and frame rail package. The manufacture puts in the same proportioning valve weather they are sending the E350 to become and ambulance or a motorhome. NOW add 5000 pounds to the rear of the vehicle and now you need more of a 50% front 50% rear bias. It doesn't matter if it's dry, wet, or snowing. My front's will lock at the drop of a hat! It get's more dicy when I've got a full tank of gas, water, and the sewage has yet to be dumped. And if I'm towing a car on a car dolly, I'll stop in the next zip code with flat spots on the fronts.
Go drive a 32 foot 8000 pound motor home in the rain and then come back and tell me you don't need ABS
(FYI I am resorting to an adjustable front rear bias controller since there is not ONE re-manufactured ABS controller out there.)
I've driven every type of vehicle known to man. I've got over 4 million miles behind me in 40 years of driving trucks. So don't tell me I don't know squat. If the proportioning is that off, that needs to be fixed, no amount of diddling with the ABS module will fix that. You're pissing in the wind hoping the ABS will compensate for your driving. 32 ft 8000 lbs ? That's a Tonka toy. And next time, try and post one thread for one problem. Maybe then you won't have people trying to help you confused over not having read both threads and missing most of the pertinent information you left out in one or the other thread.
Beyond fixing your abs if your front brakes lock up at the drop of a hat you may want to put a adjustable proportioning valve on the front brakes so you can configure a better balance between front and rear. Wilwood makes one ,and there are cheaper ones also .
Once again this "I've been drivin' 40 years and know EVERYTHING......" guy dismisses and disrespects another's thoughts & ideas for a foolish "reason".
Originally Posted by baddad457
I've driven every type of vehicle known to man. I've got over 4 million miles behind me in 40 years of driving trucks. So don't tell me I don't know squat. If the proportioning is that off, that needs to be fixed, no amount of diddling with the ABS module will fix that. You're pissing in the wind hoping the ABS will compensate for your driving. 32 ft 8000 lbs ? That's a Tonka toy0.
This ^^^ is pure BS as a contribution here, plain and simple. One persons experience with a suspected failing part or system should be addressed specifically instead of badgering someone about 40 years driving blah blah blah. Fact is those who think they're flawless especially behind the wheel and potentially driving the same roads I do tend to be far more dangerous than they realize, know or care to admit.
Whether Andy1602 agrees his rig is or is not a Tonka toy doesn't matter. His question should be addressed as it stands or left alone. Editorializing that someone essentially needs to learn to drive or dismissing one persons rig is nothing more than rude, foolish, completely off-topic, arrogant while fully missing the point not everyone is like everyone else---nor do they want to be and it shouldn't be suggested they're "less than......." because they don't have "40 years of driving trucks........" Big flipping whoopee.
Originally Posted by baddad457
And next time, try and post one thread for one problem. Maybe then you won't have people trying to help you confused over not having read both threads and missing most of the pertinent information you left out in one or the other thread.
We have moderators here so if it seems prudent to bust on someone for something as innocent as interjecting a question into an existing thread instead of starting their own topic the moderators will do that. There's no harm in making a POLITE suggestion but this gruff "do it my way......" crap is unnecessary and not the least bit helpful.
As for experience and longevity at any endeavor, driving OR posting to a forum thread doesn't mean squat if that experience is used most as a weapon instead of sharing learned lessons in the spirit helping someone else.
If the proportioning is that off, that needs to be fixed, no amount of diddling with the ABS module will fix that. You're pissing in the wind hoping the ABS will compensate for your driving.
By now I think your trolling, but here it goes:
NO, I am facing the facts. When the weight and balance of a vehicle is changed, and now most of the weight is over the duallies, that pulls weight off the front wheels. When that happens you need more braking on the rear duallies. That only solves half the problem. The other half is that no amount of braking bias change will solve the fact that front wheels are lighter. So if you do happen to need to brake hard then without ABS your just going to lock the fronts. And the front wheels are where all of your steering comes from (in case you didn't learn that in 40 years). SO instead of just relying on what I think is my "stellar" driving abilites, I would rather know that if I get into a tricky situation where I need to brake hard AND steer,that I have the ability to do both.
I invite people to share their ABS woes on the post THAT I STARTED. At least there is a place we can share our frustration of unavailable Ford ABS parts!
Also I am a CDL driver in ND and now MI. Been doing it for 135 years! Ok that last bit isn't true. Still my RV is more dangerous than any semi I have driven. Big box trucks and semi's are designed for a single purpose. Unfortunately E350's are not.
I just bought my Ford E350 chassis with ABS brakes and would like to have them working. I have put less than 1,000 mile on mine. 7.5GasHog has drove has RV far more than I have. I still think ABS brakes aid in stopping any car or truck. My front tires have never locked up but I have not had to lock the brakes up. I just pull a 16ft bast boat with mine. I hope not to offend anyone. I just ask for help like 7.5GasHog did.
Thanks, Andy
modulemaster.com rebuilds lots of abs modules , they might do yours , There are rebuilding services for almost any automotive part ever made . good luck and safe driving
By now I think your trolling, but here it goes:
NO, I am facing the facts. When the weight and balance of a vehicle is changed, and now most of the weight is over the duallies, that pulls weight off the front wheels. When that happens you need more braking on the rear duallies. That only solves half the problem. The other half is that no amount of braking bias change will solve the fact that front wheels are lighter. So if you do happen to need to brake hard then without ABS your just going to lock the fronts. And the front wheels are where all of your steering comes from (in case you didn't learn that in 40 years). SO instead of just relying on what I think is my "stellar" driving abilites, I would rather know that if I get into a tricky situation where I need to brake hard AND steer,that I have the ability to do both.
I invite people to share their ABS woes on the post THAT I STARTED. At least there is a place we can share our frustration of unavailable Ford ABS parts!
Also I am a CDL driver in ND and now MI. Been doing it for 135 years! Ok that last bit isn't true. Still my RV is more dangerous than any semi I have driven. Big box trucks and semi's are designed for a single purpose. Unfortunately E350's are not.
I'm perfectly aware of all that. If your weight distribution is that far off, then nothing you do to the ABS will solve that. You're completely ignoring this fact. You need to address the weight distribution AND address the proportioning in the brakes. And that last sentence ? Really ? You want to stick with that ? You can start by not driving the vehicle with the waste tank full, ditto for the fresh water. Wait til you're close to where you plan to camp, before filling the fresh water. And if you're towing a trailer, look at how that trailer is loaded as well. Handling has everything to do with how the weight is distributed on the trailer. And is the RV even capable of towing a trailer safely ? Sounds to me like that answer is no. Everything I read here points to someone who's playing with fire here and WILL get burned. I just hope I'm not on the road when and where this happens.
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