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Old Oct 18, 2014 | 11:11 AM
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Power Steering Pump

Need to buy a replacement power steering pump and hoses for my 69 F-100. I have the option of remanufactured pumps by Lares and AC Delco or a new one by Cardone. There's not a huge amount of difference in price but I'm more interested in quality, so which would you go for?
 
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Old Oct 18, 2014 | 04:46 PM
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Whatever P/S pump you choose, make sure it has a steel reservoir. The P/S pressure hose threads onto the pump.

1978: Ford changed the P/S pump on everything except Passenger Cars with Hydro-Boost & Econolines.

This pump has a plastic reservoir, it's a different shape than the steel reservoir pump. The P/S pressure connects to this pump w/a qwik connect fitting.

If your truck has a 360/390, its P/S pump mounting brackets will not fit this plastic reservoir pump.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2014 | 11:28 PM
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The early power steering pumps were made by Eaton. They had a separate fluid reservoir and were phased out around 1965.

The next power steering pumps to be used by Ford were the Thompson pumps. They had the round metal housings and early-on, a wider mouth opening where the dipstick was located, where you pour the fluid in. Around '66, these pumps were redesigned with a much smaller diameter tube around the dipstick. These are sometimes referenced as the 'pencil neck' pump.

In '78, Ford went to the CII (C-2) pumps with the plastic reservoir body.

I'm currently in the process of installing a CII pump, mounting brackets and the 3-groove pullys on the 240 in my '69 F-100 Ranger. The setup I have came from an '82 model Ford pickup that had a 300 in it.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 07:23 AM
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Everything I have read, and most mechanics I have talked to, prefer the 'Canned Ham' style pump, that was used on the econoline vans... Way less problems, is the word.. the brackets are a bit difficult to find, but there's lots of junkyards with old vans in them.. I found 'em, in 3 different dealers, 3 different states, and lots of digging... ND helped me a lot.. All works fine now..

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Everything I have read, and most mechanics I have talked to, prefer the 'Canned Ham' style pump, that was used on the econoline vans... Way less problems, is the word.. the brackets are a bit difficult to find, but there's lots of junkyards with old vans in them.. I found 'em, in 3 different dealers, 3 different states, and lots of digging... ND helped me a lot.. All works fine now..

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That's one of the Saginaw power steering pumps.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2014 | 04:09 PM
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The CII pumps don't like to be run on low or no fluid at all. Ruins them quick. Judging by what I've sold in the past I'd say the Thompson pump was durable. I am assuming the Saginaw has higher pressure and/or higher flow than the Thompson. Ford used it in Econolines (like mentioned above) and cars with hydro-boost.
 
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The CII pumps don't like to be run on low or no fluid at all. Ruins them quick. Judging by what I've sold in the past I'd say the Thompson pump was durable. I am assuming the Saginaw has higher pressure and/or higher flow than the Thompson. Ford used it in Econolines (like mentioned above) and cars with hydro-boost.
There were also CII 's designed for use with hydroboost brake systems. You can see the additional return line port coming up from the base of the filler neck on this CII pump (for about a '96 Ford Super Duty).

 
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It seems to me that the pump I'm replacing isn't the original one as it looks like the correct ones have thinner filler necks with a dipstick. Here's a shot of my current one that will be replaced.....can anyone confirm?


 
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1966 uses a different reservoir/cap than 1967/72 (& 1973/77), but the P/S pump seal kit is the same for both these steel reservoir pumps.
 
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Thanks for the info...so my 69 F-100 has a 66 pump....well until the new one arrives anyway.
 
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Okay, the new PS pump has arrived, but it wasn't supplied with a dipstick, which surprised me. Has anyone got a spare one they want to sell, or does anyone know where I can buy one from?

According to the diagram posted above it's part number 3A006 but when I put that into Google I don't see anything that looks right coming up.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2014 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by yabadaba
Okay, the new PS pump has arrived, but it wasn't supplied with a dipstick, which surprised me. Has anyone got a spare one they want to sell, or does anyone know where I can buy one from?

According to the diagram posted above it's part number 3A006 but when I put that into Google I don't see anything that looks right coming up.
I am assuming you mean the 1967-77 dipstick and cap combo in Bill's pic above. A local Parts store may have one. Same push-in dipstick/cap fit a gazillion Thompson pumps. Dunno about UK though. Just in case:
Part Number........D6AZ3A006A.
McDonald Obsolete...in Indianna...shows one....812-359-4965.
Dennis Carpenter FORD..in North Carolina...shows 2..800-476-9653.
NOS Parts LTD........in Texas......shows 2........972-937-2201.
NOS Only...............in California..shows 1........800-667-6659.
 
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Originally Posted by yabadaba
Okay, the new PS pump has arrived, but it wasn't supplied with a dipstick, which surprised me. Has anyone got a spare one they want to sell, or does anyone know where I can buy one from?

According to the diagram posted above it's basic part number 3A006 but when I put that into Google I don't see anything that looks right coming up.
Only basic part numbers are shown in illustrations. The text section of the parts catalog is required to get the complete part number by adding the apropos prefix & suffix.

D6AZ-3A006-B (replaced C7AZ-3A006-C; D1VY-3A006-A; D6AZ-3A006-A) .. P/S Pump Dipstick-Use with Ford steel reservoir pump / Obsolete

Applications: 1967/77 F100/350 & Passenger Cars, 1969/74 Econoline, 1973/77 Bronco.

GREEN SALES CO. in Cincinnati OH has 1 = 513-731-3304 / 800-543-4949 (greensalescompany.com)

Green Sales ships "across the pond" by Fed-Ex, don't know if Parts International does.

PARTS INTERNATIONAL in Farmers Branch TX has 16 = 972-241-8730 / 888=727-0418.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2014 | 03:47 PM
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Thanks for the info. I've ordered this from Rock Auto as they ship to the UK. It was listed for a 73 F-100 but is listed as D6AZ-3A006-A not D6AZ-3A006-B. Hopefully it will work okay.
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Originally Posted by yabadaba
Thanks for the info. I've ordered this from Rock Auto as they ship to the UK. It was listed for a 73 F-100 but is listed as D6AZ-3A006-A not D6AZ-3A006-B. Hopefully it will work okay.
D6AZ-3A006-B is the same as D6AZ-3A006-A

Late 1980's: FoMoCo changed the package quantity of a gazillion parts. When the IDIOTS did this, they changed the part numbers suffixes, rendering all the original part numbers OBSOLETE!
 
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