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Old Oct 1, 2014 | 12:36 PM
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03 Excursion Throttle Position Sensor Issues?

I've done a lot of searching on the subject, but haven't found anything definitive so I'm hoping that you folks can help.

My 03 Excursion recently started having issues where I think the throttle position sensor gave up the ghost. Everything ran fine when I'd be on the throttle for the most part, but at the occasional stoplight or when first driving, the gas pedal would have no response when depressed. The truck runs and idols just fine, just no response from the pedel. Usually I give it a second or two and everything's just fine again.

It happened a time or two last week and now it seems to happen at least once per trip. Obviously I want this resolved before I get stranded on the side of the road.

My question and the reason for the new post. I have the adjustable pedals. I've seen other threads where the sensor can be had for $25 - but only for the non-adjustable pedals. Do I really need to replace the entire floor pedal assembly (my understanding - $800 or so) to fix a stupid sensor?

Thanks for any and all input.....
 
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Old Oct 1, 2014 | 12:56 PM
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have you tried cleaning it, shop air or electronic cleaner?
 
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Old Oct 1, 2014 | 02:06 PM
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have you tried cleaning it, shop air or electronic cleaner?
I haven't done that yet. I only took a quick glance this morning, but he location of the sensor on the adjustable pedals appears to not be in the same spot as the non-adjustable version - so I've got to locate it first.

If it's as simple as that, it would make life a whole lot easier.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2014 | 02:22 PM
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I will admit I'm not familiar with the adjustable pedal version but have seen were some have solved their problem with a cleaning, Not always but worth a try.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2014 | 02:50 PM
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The $25 sensor is not an option on some of the non-adjustable assembly's (like on my F250). I've had to replace the entire pedal assembly twice in the past 160K miles.

However, the adjustable system on my Excursion has been trouble-free. I have not looked closely at the one on my Ex, but the one picture I saw of an adjustable unit on the web makes it look like you cannot replace just the sensor by itself.

I also found that you can get the aftermarket adjustable assemblies for a tad of $500... still VERY expensive, but not nearly so bad as $800.

HOWEVER, you can actually get the OEM Ford part at AutoNation in White Bear Lake for $457... link... http://parts.autonationfordwhitebear...tr=2C3Z9F836DE
 
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Old Oct 1, 2014 | 02:55 PM
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Are your gauges dead also. It could be from the OD wire shorting in the gear selector lever. This blows a fuse, I forget which one, but will cause a dead accelerator pedal also.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2014 | 03:05 PM
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A dead accelerator is not what he has, though. What he's experiencing is a minor short inside the sensor body... it normally works, but sometimes does not.

One thing for sure... it will progressively get worse until either the small piece of trash/contamination is removed, or the sensor is replaced.

When mine went out, both times, it is not like a lithium battery which runs full force until dead and then it's "gone" in a flash. The death will most likely be very slow and could take months to get so bad that you couldn't use it.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2014 | 03:36 PM
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Nope - gauges are good to go, it's just the accelerator pedal. I'm hoping to find a way to clean it and hopefully negate the problem.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2014 | 07:52 PM
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Do you have a way to monitor the data from the APPS?
 
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Old Oct 6, 2014 | 09:38 PM
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Trans - I didn't get that far. Apparently violence does solve problems from time to time. As I was leaving my parking spot at work the other day, it happened again. I pressed on the skinny pedal and got no response.

So I ended up giving a swift kick into the pedal assembly - the check engine light went out and I haven't had a problem since. I'll monitor things closely, but I'm not going out of my way to buy a new set of pedals just yet.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2014 | 12:27 PM
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Sounds like a small piece of grit or dust got knocked out of the way for you.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2014 | 12:56 PM
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Yep, a swiff kick in the pants usually gets things working again.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2014 | 10:25 AM
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What is it some of the old timers say.... "Just hit it with a hammer!! If a hammer can't fix it, nothing can!!"
 
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Old Oct 9, 2014 | 08:54 PM
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Replaced my pedal assembly already. Just a question. After I changed pedal assy, when looking it over the idle validation switch housing (which is plastic), was worn over 50 percent, where the metal tab that actuates the switch pivots. Would this affect how the pedal, where the actual tps sensor kicks in. The only time I had issue is when it got cold out, like this time of year. Like I said replaced pedal assy 2 years ago no issue.
 
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I too have the adjustable pedals and when I read that this is a common failure and that they were getting scarce I immediately ordered spare pedal assy from Tousley for my emergency parts box for when I am travelling in Mexico. However that was five years ago and I haven't had an issue. I only paid around $160 for it, I cannot believe how much they cost now.
 
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