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Can anyone tell me how hard it is to find 16" wheels to fit a 1953 Mercury 1 ton dually?
Ive got some 16" split rims I want to get rid of and 17.5" on the front.
Someone told me there were 6 hole 16" rims but I havnt been able to track any down?
 
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Your 6 lug x 7.25" one ton DRW pattern limits your options. The stock 16" two piecers on the truck can still be kept in service if they are undamaged. They are not the "widow maker" style two piece variety. There has never been a 16" one piece made with that pattern. That 17.5" is your best answer. There were two styles made. Budd #71320 has six hand holes and the later Budd #79120 has three hand holes. Last I heard our member GB Sisson had a set available. Aside from that you are looking at having custom wheels made. We can offer sources for them too if you need. Stu
 
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B6TZ-1015-A.. 17.5" x 5.25" - 6 lug, 7.25" Bolt Circle Wheel - Use with DRW (dual rear wheels) & tubeless tires / Budd # 79120 / Obsolete

1956/66 F350 & P350 (P Series Parcel Delivery) / No Ford dealer or obsolete parts vendor has any.
 
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I'm not sure if these will work but I saw this post for 6 lug wheels in the Michigan Buy/Sell thread. I'm sure someone else on here can tell you if they would fit your truck. The price is right.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/338403-michigan-chapter-buy-sell-trade-ads.html#post14687847
 
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No, they will not fit. They are metric 6 x 135mm. Stu
 
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I got a set of rims from a 55 f350, 6 lug, that I have no use for. They're 16" with the unbroken ring (not widowmakers) and I don't really know anything else about them. I bet if I posted pictures Stu would tell us all about em.
 
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I got a set of rims from a 55 f350, 6 lug, that I have no use for.

They're 16" with the unbroken ring (not widowmakers) and I don't really know anything else about them. I bet if I posted pictures Stu would tell us all about em.
Only 16" wheels available for 1953/56 F350's were for DRW's (dual rear wheels).

If the 16" wheels are for SRW's (single rear wheels), they aren't original as they were first offered in 1957.

C3TZ-1007-L (replaced C3TZ-1007-H and ?) .. 16" x 5.5" 6 lug 7.25" Bolt Circle Wheel - Use with SRW's (single rear wheels) / Stamped: 65340 or 65340-D / Obsolete

8J-1099 .. Side Ring - Use with C3TZ-1007-H & C3TZ-1007-L wheels / Obsolete

1957/66 F350 & P350 (P Series Parcel Delivery).

btw: C3TZ-1007-L (1963 part number) replaced a 1957 part number, but I couldn't find it.
 
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Might be able from what you just said. Probably they are Budd #65340, 16" x 5.5", having the solid unbroken "RHP" ring and rim design. You probably will find that part number on the concave side rim lip on the outer dual, generally opposite the valve stem. They are a good solution if the tubeless wheels and tires are not the chosen alternative. Please see if you can find those part numbers.

Edit: Bill - I don't find your number, and also don't show any 16" SRW used on the 55 F-350. Only the 17" in a tube type. I assume the wheels mentioned are DRW.

Here's the "RHP" design. Stu
 
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Looks like Bill and I were editing on top of each other. There are a few 16" wheels that could have been retro-fitted to the truck. Budd #61630 has the RHP design but has 2 3/16" offset. This is a SRW design, but much deeper dish than the 1/2" stock measurement. Stu

Edit - there is also a later wheel, Budd #82860, that has the RHP design and has 1/2" offset. This wheel was first listed in 1967, then disappears from Budd and NWRA listings. The 6 x 7.25" pattern was last used by Ford in 1966, and by Dodge and IHC in 1968. Stu

Edit/Edit - Bill - I found the C3TZ 1007-L in the 1957 catalog but my book doesn't identify it as SRW. If your reference cites the Budd #65340 and says it's SRW that's a misprint. That number is the stock DRW for 1955. Stu
 
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Stu, this time of the day here in LA LA Land is feeding time for our 3 Basset Hounds. Plus "She who must be obeyed" has been coming in here, yakking and getting stuff off the printer.

She and her laptop are located at the west end of the house, while I'm in the library at the east end of the house with the printer, using a desk top.

Barking dogs and She can be very distracting, I had to edit my post several times to correct mistakes. Only 16" wheels for 1953/56 F350's are for DRW's.

If you didn't notice my edit, the C3TZ-L wheels are 65340's.
 
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Bill - I saw you were editing as fast as I was. I too am computer challenged these days. I do everything on the iPhone. I think about getting an iPad or laptop but then can't see that there's really any reason to do that. The phone does all I need. Stu
 
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy View Post

8J-1099 .. Side Ring - Use with C3TZ-1007-H & C3TZ-1007-L wheels / Obsolete

1957/66 F350 & P350 (P Series Parcel Delivery).

btw: C3TZ-1007-L (1963 part number) replaced a 1957 part number, but I couldn't find it.
Bill, from the November '54 catalog,

8J-1099..48-55 J (parcel delivery) (D* special equipment) 16"x5.5" use with 8J 1007 wheel,
and, 53-55 Y (f350) use with TCAA 1007-B wheel.
 
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy View Post
Only 16" wheels available for 1953/56 F350's were for DRW's (dual rear wheels).

If the 16" wheels are for SRW's (single rear wheels), they aren't original as they were first offered in 1957.

C3TZ-1007-L (replaced C3TZ-1007-H and ?) .. 16" x 5.5" 6 lug 7.25" Bolt Circle Wheel - Use with SRW's (single rear wheels) / Stamped: 65340 or 65340-D / Obsolete

8J-1099 .. Side Ring - Use with C3TZ-1007-H & C3TZ-1007-L wheels / Obsolete

1957/66 F350 & P350 (P Series Parcel Delivery).

btw: C3TZ-1007-L (1963 part number) replaced a 1957 part number, but I couldn't find it.
I thought we were talking about a dually one ton truck, which is what mine is. I always forget about SRW one tons and forgot to clarify.
 
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Bill, from the November '54 catalog,

8J-1099..48-55 J (parcel delivery) (D* special equipment) 16"x5.5" use with 8J 1007 wheel,
and, 53-55 Y (f350) use with TCAA 1007-B wheel.
1948/56 catalog sez: TCAA-1007-B .. 1953/56 Y (F350) - Use with Dual rear wheels.

What I couldn't find was the original 1957 part number that C3TZ-1007-H & L 16" SRW replaced.
 
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This is where it's much simpler sometimes to just use the manufacture's number. An 8J 1099 is a Firestone #S1172. It's shown to fit any 16" x 5.5" "RHP" rim no matter the bolt pattern and irrespective of SRW or DRW. And no matter the application. I even find it used on a 1937 Divco.

Edit - Oh, and come to think, it's used on the hyper rare Budd #47210s that are on Josh's and Mark's F-2 Marmon-Herringtons having the 5 x 8" pattern. Stu
 
 
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