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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 06:21 PM
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Rebuilt from ground up - Program or run stock??

So, now to the big question.
I lost a piston at just over 101,000 miles while towing. From what everyone told, it looked like the injector went out, over fueling and blowing hole in piston. Long story short, the entire motor has been rebuilt from the block up - new pistons, rods, mains, heads done, bullet proofing done, ARPs, just about everything.

Still keeping stock FICM.


What I was running when it blew:
SCT Stock+20HP program - basically just to get updated tranny shifts and speedo adjust

PHP FICM programmer running Atlas 40HP.

Towing my 14k toy hauler, as that is about all I do with the truck - not a daily driver.


Now - should I continue to run this same setup now that I spent a small fortune getting it back to working condition? I'm gunshy on the PHP program wondering if that somehow caused the injector failure and ultimately engine failure.. Am I justified on this one? Or is PHP's FICM setup pretty reliable??


Ideas, thoughts, prayers..
 
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 08:17 PM
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No one has any opinions?

Anyone else using PHP's FICM program with the canned Atlas tunes?
 
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 09:02 PM
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I have my ficm tuned with the Atlas 40. No problems to date and I tow simular weight on a regular basis. Fluke deal with the injector or egts got a little high. Are you running larger exhaust? A egt gauge may be your best friend.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 09:03 PM
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Any idea what caused the injector tip to break off? That would really determine how I would run in the future. Low fuel pressure, bad fuel ect?

I am on the cautious side but I would run it stock when pulling that load. I am sure many would disagree but the 6.0 in stock form pulls really well.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 10:25 PM
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The injector that failed didn't have any noticeable damage. No tip damage at all. All the mechanics could guess was that it internally failed and over-fueled the cylinder. I'm just hoping that the FICM didn't for some reason try to push to much thru that one for whatever reason..

As for EGTs, I do have a 4" turbo back (MBRP) and have an EGT guage that I watch. I never let it get above 1350 for more than a few seconds. I'm nervous when it hits 1250-1300.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2014 | 10:06 AM
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From what i read the ficm tuning doesn't add fuel or contribute to cylinder pressures, i believe that's on Ed's site, correct me if i'm wrong. It prolongs the burn to get more out of the fuel already being delivered.

Not that i have any real experience there.

Wouldn't say it was the FICM tuning anyways, lot's of guys use the Atlas 40 for everything
 
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Old Sep 15, 2014 | 03:24 PM
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It all depends on what you want to do. We build a reman engine with .030 oversized pistons and a stage 2 camshaft for $6295. that has 70-80 more HP and about 20% more torque than a stock engine without doing anything else. With it you can add performance injectors which can add another 50 to 100 HP before you even think about a programmer.
 
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