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Old Sep 5, 2014 | 07:16 PM
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Almost all the rules would not apply to a pick up for securing stuff considering you would want to put something on it anyhow so you would not loose it. The pick up will not hold anything long enough or heavy enough for these rules to apply. I have a flat bed on mine and love it. You will be lifting things higher to get them on it though. You can also make and some come with sides and tailgates so you can haul all the little stuff you would in a regular pick up bed.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2014 | 08:31 PM
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The pick up will not hold anything long enough or heavy enough for these rules to apply. I have a flat bed on mine and love it.
This is incorrect. For example, if you are hauling 3 boxes stacked end to end(size or weight do not matter) then the first box (closest to cab) must have two straps, the middle box one strap and the last box two straps. That is five straps for the boxes no matter what the weight. One single box is supposed to have two straps. I won't even get into the laws for how the straps have to be hooked(inside rub rail, load ratings for rub rail/trailer/etc). If you are hauling one 8' long sheet of plywood it is required to have 2 straps within the first 5 feet and 2 within the last 5 feet. 8 feet long would require 3 straps. It is also required to have a strap(or blocking/headache rack) to prevent forward and rearward motion. That is potentially 5 straps to hold down one sheet of plywood. They usually leave noncommercial vehicles alone, but they do have the authority to pull over noncommercial vehicles for load securement violations as well.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2014 | 07:03 AM
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Actually I am correct. Like I said if you want your 3 boxes end to end when you get to where you are going you will need 3 straps. You do not need the second strap on the first box because you have it up tight against the front of the bed. A piece of plywood would not require 5 straps. HA HA. As long as it is pushed up tight against the front of the bed tight. You would only need 2 because it is up against the front of the bed (bulkhead or headache rack) and it is under 10'. Even a 1 ton pick up will not be big enough to haul anything heavy enough to worry about load ratings for the rub rail. This is assuming you are using 2" straps that I do recommend if you have an open flat which is good for 3300 lb working load limit. But hey, you are more than welcome to interpret the laws as you want. I have been pulling flatbed for over 20 yrs and know a little bit about it but not much.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2014 | 07:33 AM
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TFLT... all the more reason to just work the heck out of your pickup bed. With a flatbed, you're liable to get involved in an accident with people not looking where they are going because they are busy counting your straps!









Just ribbing guys! Carry on, this is a good discussion... informative for those who normally go strapless.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2014 | 07:44 AM
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Lots of farm trucks here with flatbeds. They just take the necessary steps to secure the load properly when getting supplies and that is it.


No one pays attention.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2014 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by senix
Lots of farm trucks here with flatbeds. They just take the necessary steps to secure the load properly when getting supplies and that is it.


No one pays attention.


Agreed, reasonable measures to secure loads are fine here when dealing with our light duty stuff. Scary, improper or negligent loads will attract unwanted attention by enforcement, and destroy you in court should you cause a serious accident.
I still like the idea of a flatbed and see that you can have 4 or 8 inch side rails which seems like it would maintain a lot of a beds utility. I also understand it will be higher, but you would have 3 sided access and much easier to load using equipment. Oh well, I cant argue with y2kw57 and think a dump trailer on the wish list might be right for me, UNLESS, there's killer flatbed for box swap at the pj dealer!
 
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Old Sep 8, 2014 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by adayrider
Actually I am correct. Like I said if you want your 3 boxes end to end when you get to where you are going you will need 3 straps. You do not need the second strap on the first box because you have it up tight against the front of the bed. A piece of plywood would not require 5 straps. HA HA. As long as it is pushed up tight against the front of the bed tight. You would only need 2 because it is up against the front of the bed (bulkhead or headache rack) and it is under 10'. Even a 1 ton pick up will not be big enough to haul anything heavy enough to worry about load ratings for the rub rail. This is assuming you are using 2" straps that I do recommend if you have an open flat which is good for 3300 lb working load limit. But hey, you are more than welcome to interpret the laws as you want. I have been pulling flatbed for over 20 yrs and know a little bit about it but not much.
I pulled flatbed too and took a several week course offered by the DOT and know what the laws are. Whether hauling commercially or with my personal vehicle I will haul my stuff according to the DOT handbook. I can't tell you how many tractor trailers I see with loads tied down wrong, loads shifting or falling off and those are people that are supposed to be professionally trained. It is even worse with the average person driving a pick up truck. As for the plywood, see where I said it would need the extra strap OR bulkhead.

Also, the weight rating for the rub rail is zero pounds. It is there to prevent your straps from getting cut, not as a tie down point for straps
 
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