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Old Aug 29, 2014 | 03:20 PM
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460 mass air conversion

I see a lot said about small block maf conversion. ive got a 460, it has different intake tubing to air filter box so not many junkyard parts to make it work. Dunne-rite has a kit on line around $750. My oem ecm has a rev limiter programmed in it. does anyone have info on what ecm s don't. or if 96 or newer ecm can be used. thanks rick
 
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Old Aug 29, 2014 | 05:58 PM
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It's already difficult enough to swap an EEC-IV MAF system for many people, pulling off an OBD-II (EEC-V) is even more involved.

I'm pretty sure all trucks of this vintage have very conservative speed and RPM limiters. The key is using a PCM that is supported by aftermarket tuners.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2014 | 06:23 PM
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All Ford EFI systems have a rev limiter. The 460's are set very low stock, less than 5,000 RPM I believe.

There are no factory EEC-IV 460 MAF systems as far as I know. Most people adapt setups from the 302 or 351, but they require tuning.

There is an EEC-V 460 MAF system, but it requires a complete harness swap from the donor truck, and also requires a crankshaft position sensor that the EEV-IV systems didn't have. The crank position sensor requires the front cover, sensor and trigger wheel from a MAF 460 truck.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2014 | 11:30 PM
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I'm curious about this also, what about the mustang AL9 computer? how much tuning would be involved??
 
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Old Sep 1, 2014 | 12:25 AM
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Lots of tuning. Everything would have to be changed.
 
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Old Sep 1, 2014 | 11:26 AM
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According to the instructions I Recieved, it's for 5.0/5.8/7.5.

So yes you could use the A9L
 
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Old Sep 1, 2014 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by rdbcole1956
I see a lot said about small block maf conversion. ive got a 460, it has different intake tubing to air filter box so not many junkyard parts to make it work. Dunne-rite has a kit on line around $750. My oem ecm has a rev limiter programmed in it. does anyone have info on what ecm s don't. or if 96 or newer ecm can be used. thanks rick
A 5000rpm limiter is just fine. Won't hurt your performance in any way. A WAY1 or VEX1 ecm is for trucks and Broncos with a 302. Same firing order and they are already set up for an E4OD tranny so if you have an auto with overdrive you'd be all good. Minimal tuning.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2014 | 03:20 AM
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1988-97 F-SERIES 7.5L (non-E4OD) MASS AIR CONVERSION KIT

depending on your trans this may work.
its what i plan on when i do my rebuild
 
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Old Sep 2, 2014 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by wr310rdr
1988-97 F-SERIES 7.5L (non-E4OD) MASS AIR CONVERSION KIT

depending on your trans this may work.
its what i plan on when i do my rebuild
I emailed Fiveology to see if they have any applications for an E4OD or if they have suggestions. This is something I really want to do but IST wants too much scratch for it.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2014 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by wr310rdr
1988-97 F-SERIES 7.5L (non-E4OD) MASS AIR CONVERSION KIT

depending on your trans this may work.
its what i plan on when i do my rebuild
I run a C6 trans so this should basically bolt in right?
 
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Old Sep 2, 2014 | 11:06 AM
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Yes, no need for a stand alone TCM
 
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Old Sep 2, 2014 | 11:28 AM
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I emailed Fiveology to see if they have any applications for an E4OD or if they have suggestions. This is something I really want to do but IST wants too much scratch for it.
Yes they have a E4OD kit.........

F-Series Truck Mass Air Conversion
 
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Old Sep 2, 2014 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jasoncarpenter1
Yes they have a E4OD kit.........

F-Series Truck Mass Air Conversion
Oh christ how did I miss that. And its $200 more. I wonder if they actually tune the ecm, or are just using a 5.0 ecm w/E4OD.
 
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