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Old Aug 2, 2014 | 08:13 AM
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Shifting issues

Hi guys.

I have a question about my 4 speed crashbox in my 48.

So I drove the truck on a quick 15 minute trip to the gas station. The trip there was uneventful. On the way back I stopped at an intersection. With the clutch in, I tried to put the truck in second so that I could take off again. I say tried, because all I got was chatter from the transmission. I let the clutch in and out a couple times, but still couldn't get it to hit the gear. I ended up shutting the truck off, restarting, and then I took off fine.

Had the same issue at the next stop, but I was able to finesse the shifter into gear after a couple tries.

The motor seemed to be idling fast at the time I was having the issue, so I don't know if that's part of the problem.

I'm not ruling out driver error, as I'm still learning with this truck. Any advice is appreciated.
 
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Old Aug 2, 2014 | 08:40 AM
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If it is reluctant to go into one gear, clutch in and try another. How much free movement in your clutch? Much over an inch and the clutch may not be disengaging. Fast idle is not conducive to smooth transmission operation.
 
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Old Aug 2, 2014 | 08:42 AM
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I think what you experience is normal. Shifting a spur gear tranny takes practice. The engine and trans need to match speed to shift. For me, I have found two points to make shifting easier. One, I have learned to raise my foot off the clutch pedal slightly before shifting. (I found that I was not fully releasing the clutch by leaving my foot on the clutch prior to shifting). Two, sometimes when coming to a stop, I have to goose the gas a bit to bring the engine rpm up to the same speed as the trans.

I assume you are " Double Clutching" correct? I also found that by not being too aggressive in accelerating from one gear to the next, but taking it slow and easy, I can shift problem free. Downshifting is more difficult as that is where matching engine and tranny speed is most important. But even there, slow and easy works far better than aggressive slowing and shifting.

Lastly, I imagine someone will post the adjustment procedure for the clutch. Its a simple adjustment and may help as well.
 
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I am double-clutching up. I've yet to get the hang of the double-clutch downshift, so I've just been coming to a stop and then downshifting to the gear I want.

Just to clarify, is free movement the amount of travel in the pedal before you feel the clutch engage/disengage? (I'm not sure which is the proper term here)
 
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Originally Posted by JPMallory
I am double-clutching up. I've yet to get the hang of the double-clutch downshift, so I've just been coming to a stop and then downshifting to the gear I want.

Just to clarify, is free movement the amount of travel in the pedal before you feel the clutch engage/disengage? (I'm not sure which is the proper term here)
I wouldn't spend too much time on downshift techniques. Unless you're hauling a heavy load, brakes are the better way to go.

Free movement or free play or play is the distance the clutch pedal moves before engaging the mechanism.
 
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Old Aug 2, 2014 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by JPMallory
I am double-clutching up. I've yet to get the hang of the double-clutch downshift, so I've just been coming to a stop and then downshifting to the gear I want.

Just to clarify, is free movement the amount of travel in the pedal before you feel the clutch engage/disengage? (I'm not sure which is the proper term here)
Yes, free travel is movement before you feel resistance. Disengage is when the clutch is not providing a link to move the vehicle, clutch depressed. Engagement is when the clutch "hooks up", provides a driving link to the vehicle. I believe the adjustment calls for an inch to inch and a half free movement before you feel the clutch start to disengage. Then there is a check of that adjustment at around 2000 rpm that makes sure you still have some free movement at that RPM. If you have much more than an inch and a half free play or free movement, the clutch may not release or disengage.
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