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Old Jul 11, 2014 | 10:15 AM
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I understand what you're saying, I still think there is an increase because the body will want to roll more (higher center of mass).
Actually the body roll is unchanged. Imagine a truck with flimsy stock springs 5 feet up in the air with all the lifting done below the springs. While a roll over is more possible, the body roll (way up there) will be the same. (Actually less because you would change your driving habits). Again; the truck doesn't know how high it is.
 
Old Jul 11, 2014 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by EXv10
Actually the body roll is unchanged. Imagine a truck with flimsy stock springs 10 feet up in the air with all the lifting done below the springs. While a roll over is more possible, the body roll (way up there) will be the same. (Actually less because you would change your driving habits).
I'm done, I don't want to hijack this thread.
 
Old Jul 11, 2014 | 10:52 AM
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Sorry that's just totally wrong. Somebody else in here said something about the height of the truck affecting the spring stress but the truth is; the truck doesn't know how high it is................it has no brain.

Originally Posted by RobRoss
As I said....it's my opinion.

Please tell me where I'm wrong.

 
Old Jul 11, 2014 | 10:57 AM
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matter of fact the ride is much better and seem 2 b more stable...
 
Old Jul 11, 2014 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by EXv10
Actually the body roll is unchanged. Imagine a truck with flimsy stock springs 5 feet up in the air with all the lifting done below the springs. While a roll over is more possible, the body roll (way up there) will be the same. (Actually less because you would change your driving habits). Again; the truck doesn't know how high it is.

Center of gravity is higher


Center of gravity; and Rotational variables
 
Old Jul 11, 2014 | 11:13 AM
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Now te front of the X is 2.5 inches taller than the rear!
 
Old Jul 11, 2014 | 11:29 AM
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Didn't even read that.......It was never disputed that the c.o.g. was higher.
 
Old Jul 11, 2014 | 12:21 PM
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matter of fact the ride is much better and seem 2 b more stable...
How could it be better?
 
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Old Jul 11, 2014 | 12:29 PM
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I'm done, I don't want to hijack this thread.
Or you could just say I am right.
 
Old Jul 11, 2014 | 12:35 PM
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How could it be better?
Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums - View Single Post - Shackles are better than spring swap.
 
Old Jul 11, 2014 | 12:53 PM
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Are you happy with the results?

Good! I'm all for someone trying something different and letting us know.
 
Old Jul 11, 2014 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by EXv10
Or you could just say I am right.
If I thought you were, I would. I didn't want to say I disagreed and then say I was done and didn't want to hijack the thread...but since you asked. Similar to how you said I was wrong but didn't offer an explanation until I asked for it.

I read a lot of your posts, sometimes I agree with you sometimes I don't and that's ok with me. (I'm sure you too! hahaha)
 
Old Jul 11, 2014 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by RobRoss
If I thought you were, I would. I didn't want to say I disagreed and then say I was done and didn't want to hijack the thread...but since you asked. Similar to how you said I was wrong but didn't offer an explanation until I asked for it.

I read a lot of your posts, sometimes I agree with you sometimes I don't and that's ok with me. (I'm sure you too! hahaha)
OK I will make it real simple. Walk up to a stock Ex, shake it, and notice how much it moved. Now put that Ex on a flatbed trailer, climb up on the trailer and shake it again, was there a difference? Remember we were talking about body roll difference after adding blocks and having it affect the springs over time.
 
Old Jul 11, 2014 | 01:33 PM
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OK I will make it real simple. Walk up to a stock Ex, shake it, and notice how much it moved. Now put that Ex on a flatbed trailer, climb up on the trailer and shake it again, was there a difference? Remember we were talking about body roll difference after adding blocks and having it affect the springs over time.
Enough already. Your example doesn't put the body any higher above the axles LIKE IN THIS CASE.
 
Old Jul 11, 2014 | 01:57 PM
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Enough already. Your example doesn't put the body any higher above the axles LIKE IN THIS CASE.
You're still not grasping it. Yes the body is higher but the body moves while in a curve at the spring level so the blocks have nothing to do with body roll. Imagine having 12" blocks, the body will still flex at the spring level. 24" blocks, same thing. (the blocks don't bend).
Example # 2; With the Ex strapped onto the flatbed truck by the axles, drive the truck at 70 mph around a sharp curve, notice the body roll. Did it roll more by being up there? ......no.
Everything below the spring level has nothing to do with body roll, unless you are counting the slight compression of the tires.
 



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