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Old Jun 29, 2014 | 03:56 PM
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351W Starter Solenoid Problems

I'm finally back working on my truck, trying to get it running. When I first started, many months ago, the starter solenoid was bad. I replaced it with a new Echlin ST404 which is listed as the OEM replacement. After around 10-20 attempts at starting it over a period of time (i.e. not one after another without rest) the solenoid failed with the high amperage contacts shorted together. Not a very good failure mode. It was replaced under warranty. The replacement lasted 3 attempts at starting before it too failed with the high amperage contacts shorted.

At this point I'm wondering if there is a problem in the truck other than the solenoid; have I gotten two bum solenoids in a row; or has Echlin turned to total crap. I'm trying to start it using a remote start button jumpered between the battery positive terminal of the solenoid and the solenoid activation terminal, the "S" terminal. The starter motor is drawing 185-200 amps while turning over.

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Old Jun 29, 2014 | 04:20 PM
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No other reason for that but bad solenoids, quality isn't what it used to be.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2014 | 08:04 PM
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All I can say is we have had A LOT of these kinds of posts, with people having the same problem after they replaced the solenoid. Why I lean toward the solenoid being defective is some people never had a problem, replace it to "prevent problems in the future" and end up with this sticking problem they never had before.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2014 | 09:06 PM
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I guess I'll caulk it up to Echlin stuff being junk now. To bad because they used to be one if the better brands. I may just get a Cole Hersee solenoid to replace the OEM style. At least I know that Cole Hersee is still making quality. I'll have to see if they have one with an integral diode. If not I'll need to add one externally.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2014 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Island Time
I guess I'll caulk it up to Echlin stuff being junk now. To bad because they used to be one if the better brands. I may just get a Cole Hersee solenoid to replace the OEM style. At least I know that Cole Hersee is still making quality. I'll have to see if they have one with an integral diode.
If not I'll need to add one externally.
. Where do you find this brand solenoid? I have an older Warn winch and it burns out solenoids every time I use it. I want to go to a higher rated part but can't locate information.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2014 | 05:59 PM
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. Where do you find this brand solenoid? I have an older Warn winch and it burns out solenoids every time I use it. I want to go to a higher rated part but can't locate information.
Here's a link to what I have now. My local Napa sold it to me.
Plastic Case Solenoid SAZ

As for your winch, is there anything about it that is specific to the Ford style starter solenoid, or could you use a different kind. If you can use something different I'd strongly recommend Cole Hersee. Good, solid, reliable stuff. Here's a page listing solenoids that might interest you.

Solenoids & Relays | Steel & Phenolic Body Solenoids | Cole Hersee - Littelfuse
 
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