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Old Jul 9, 2003 | 09:14 AM
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Unhappy rough idle

Hey all. looking for some troubleshooting tips for a 2000 Expedition 4x4.
I have had it for about 2 weeks, has ran like a champ, then the other day it started to run rough. Nothing real major, but can tell that the idle is not steady and running a little higher rpm than normal.
Also seems to have lost a fair amount of power, and accerleration is not smooth like it was before.

Would replacing the fuel filter be a good place to start on this?
The check engine light was on, but i reset the computer as I looked at a few components (air filter, MAF). My instructions said to disconnect the negative battery cable before working on...

Any ideas or similar experiences on this would be much appreciated!
 
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Old Jul 9, 2003 | 09:43 AM
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These engines are a little temperamental. Yes, the fuel filter is a good start (especially if you just bought it used), but your problem could be caused by a number of other components. In fact, it might just be a bad tank of gas. If your check engine light came on, then you should have some codes stored in the PCM. Get a code reader or take it to Autozone and have them read the codes. This is a much more systematic approach than guessing.

Good Luck.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2003 | 09:46 AM
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Where can we buy a code reader? What exactly do we need to ask for when getting one? How much to they cost?
 
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Old Jul 9, 2003 | 09:55 AM
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Thanks.
Forgot to mention, 5.4 v8 engine, pushing 60K.

I saw code readers at Advance Autoparts for about $150.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2003 | 09:56 AM
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Originally posted by Bobby Reynolds
Where can we buy a code reader? What exactly do we need to ask for when getting one? How much to they cost?
Try a Google search of obdii and you'll find plenty of readers and insight into them. They start around $150 and I'm sure go to $15,000 or more for shop style computer diagnostic machines. I got the Superchip tuner which also reads codes.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2003 | 11:24 PM
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You might have a slight vacuum leak - there's a hose assembly towards the rear of the passenger side of the engine that tends to rot and cause rough idling. May be worth checking it.

Also, you might have a coil pack that's just starting to go bad, but not bad enough to trip a code. The #4 is a notorious for blowing up due to a leaky coolant hose in some of these vehicles.

Keep us posted!

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Old Jul 10, 2003 | 07:38 AM
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Just a quick question,
Is the #4 the second plug on the passenger side from the front of the engine? I wanted to check and see if mine is still tight or if it's ready to launch through my hood

Thanks,
Phil
 
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Old Jul 16, 2003 | 09:15 AM
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Hey all, just wnated to follow up on the resolution of this problem.
The problem was that somehow I got moisture in the coils on cylinders 1 and 2. We have had a lot of bad storms since I bought it a few weeks ago, so I guess that was the cause.
Anyway, I had the coils and plugs replaced (for a hefty fee) and the problem was fixed for about a day. The darn dealer repacked the rest of the coils supposedly, but the next day I got a misfire in cylinder 3!
I decided to pull the coil and plug out myself (was pretty easy) and cleaned, repacked with dielectric grease, and re-installed.
This fixed the problem.
I found this very easy to do, except it would be a lot harder to get to #4 or #8 if you had to.
Thanks for all the replies to this post. This forum is great!
 
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