Dually conversion questions
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Dually conversion questions
I planned to convert my sig truck to a dually but I figured I'd have to paint the whole thing so the replacement bed will match which is way I decided to keep it SRW. Well, I recently found a black powder coated western hauler bed off a 95 F350 for cheap. My truck already has black accents and trim so it would look sharp with this bed IMO. I also found a set of stock ford dually Alcoa wheels which I love the style of. I'm told that with spacers I can run dually wheels n my stock srw axles. The front axle I wouldn't mind putting spacers on cause it doesn't take any weight (no snow here so no snow plow). I do worry about the weight on the rear axles breaking the studs with the spacers under a load. I found a dually axle but need to know if there's anything on the rear dually axle that won't bolt up or needs modification. As long as it has the same gear ratio as the front axle and isn't from a C&C it will go straight in right?
This isn't the actual pic but it's identical to this bed
This isn't the actual pic but it's identical to this bed
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I do worry about the weight on the rear axles breaking the studs with the spacers under a load. I found a dually axle but need to know if there's anything on the rear dually axle that won't bolt up or needs modification. As long as it has the same gear ratio as the front axle and isn't from a C&C it will go straight in right?
As for the front axle, I believe the only 4x4 dually was a C&C in the obs and bricknose trucks. Will the stock 4x4 C&C dually hub bolt right on to my pickup front axle? I'd like this not to be all hacked up and using stock parts would be nice.
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I found these on epay. Says they're off an obs dana 60 dually axle. Is this what I need?
Can anybody answer my other question? Will anything from a true dually axle not bolt in directly or need modification?
Can anybody answer my other question? Will anything from a true dually axle not bolt in directly or need modification?
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Can you post a pic of yours? Idon't trust ebay
The only other thing I found are complete dually front ends. Do these look right?
The only other thing I found are complete dually front ends. Do these look right?
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the second ones are what i have.
i guess the first ones may be rite, i just never saw them without the rotors.
i guess the first ones may be rite, i just never saw them without the rotors.
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the DRW rims will all bolt up.however you also need the budd style lug nuts.
the DRW pickup rear will be a direct bolt in.insure you use new u-bolts.
if you score a pre '93 sterling 10.25 it will be direct for your '88.
if you score a '93-97 2nd gen with updated longer yoke,then you'll need the shorter driveshaft?
i used a pre-93 1st gen drw axle in place of my 2nd gen,and the slightly shorter yoke was no issue.i simply needed a conversion u-joint and the older style yoke straps vrs in the newer u bolt style.
i would imagine the difference in yoke may not matter enough to cause issues but im not sure about going with a longer yoked/2nd gen sterling in place of the 1st gen as far as requiring a shorter shaft or not.i know you wouldn't want to get that one wrong or it would be a bad lesson to learn the hard way lol.
i used arrowcraft aa-4 series front adapters for my front end convert.2wd/4wd non specific.a much more beefier design than oem with no need to mess with bearings/brake rotors.
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As for the rear axle FORDF250HDXLT pretty much summed it up.
You NEED a PICKUP rear dually axle. They only came in 2wd
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Okay, I probably sound stupid right now but let me confirm I got this all correct
Install true dually sterling 10.25 rear axle from a pickup, not a C&C, with the same gear ratio as the front from an 8th gen
Install a dually flat bed (I've replaced beds before so this is no prob)
Install hubs from a front dually dana 60 onto my srw dana 60
Install desired wheels and tires with correct dually lug nuts
And that's it right?
Install true dually sterling 10.25 rear axle from a pickup, not a C&C, with the same gear ratio as the front from an 8th gen
Install a dually flat bed (I've replaced beds before so this is no prob)
Install hubs from a front dually dana 60 onto my srw dana 60
Install desired wheels and tires with correct dually lug nuts
And that's it right?
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Okay, I probably sound stupid right now but let me confirm I got this all correct
Install true dually sterling 10.25 rear axle from a pickup, not a C&C, with the same gear ratio as the front
Install a dually flat bed (I've replaced beds before so this is no prob)
Install hubs from a front dually dana 60 onto my srw dana 60
Install desired wheels and tires with correct dually lug nuts
And that's it right?
Install true dually sterling 10.25 rear axle from a pickup, not a C&C, with the same gear ratio as the front
Install a dually flat bed (I've replaced beds before so this is no prob)
Install hubs from a front dually dana 60 onto my srw dana 60
Install desired wheels and tires with correct dually lug nuts
And that's it right?
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Okay, I probably sound stupid right now but let me confirm I got this all correct
Install true dually sterling 10.25 rear axle from a pickup, not a C&C, with the same gear ratio as the front from an 8th gen
Install a dually flat bed (I've replaced beds before so this is no prob)
Install hubs from a front dually dana 60 onto my srw dana 60
Install desired wheels and tires with correct dually lug nuts
And that's it right?
Install true dually sterling 10.25 rear axle from a pickup, not a C&C, with the same gear ratio as the front from an 8th gen
Install a dually flat bed (I've replaced beds before so this is no prob)
Install hubs from a front dually dana 60 onto my srw dana 60
Install desired wheels and tires with correct dually lug nuts
And that's it right?
Not sure if that pic of the axle is a sterling 10.25 dually pickup axle, but yes you need a pick dually axle not a cab-n-chassis axle.
For the wheels, ford made it complicated.
There were 3 different dually rims made from 87-97
all were 16x6 but different offset
2wds got 5.00" offset for 215s
4wds got 5.35" offset for 235s
vans got 5.15" offset for 215s
Justa FYI, you cannot run aluminum inner wheels, only the outer 4(hub and studs are not long enough)
Something else to consider. ALOT of those western hauler beds were made to go on CAB-N CHASSIS trucks, which have narrow frame rails(34"). You will want to measure the mounts to make sure it will fit on your PICKUP frame(36")
