To much coolant?
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To much coolant?
So the dealer just replaced my EGR and oil coolers as well as STC fitting and dummy plugs. Thanks to Ford extended warranty it didn't cost me but for the plugs and STC fitting. First trip out with our 11,000lb fiver going over some short mountain passes she starts to whistle like a tea kettle again and blew a bunch of coolant out the degas bottle. Temps were ok, it did get up to 228 briefly but came right back down at the top of the hill. Factory gauge never budged past the middle of the dial. Coming home in slightly warmer temps it only did it very briefly and only on one hill. No problems after that and temps and everything else was good the rest of the trip home.
The question is this. I seem to remember reading some where that if you fill the degas bottle to the max line that it will puke out some fluid when it gets hot and that the bottle should not be filled above the MIN line. Is this so? Right now the coolant level is at the MIN line after the coolant loss on the trip. I just don't want to go running back to the dealer for something that isn't really a problem.
The truck is an 07 with 69,000 miles and is under Ford Premium extended warranty for 2 more years or until 83,000miles.
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Steve
The question is this. I seem to remember reading some where that if you fill the degas bottle to the max line that it will puke out some fluid when it gets hot and that the bottle should not be filled above the MIN line. Is this so? Right now the coolant level is at the MIN line after the coolant loss on the trip. I just don't want to go running back to the dealer for something that isn't really a problem.
The truck is an 07 with 69,000 miles and is under Ford Premium extended warranty for 2 more years or until 83,000miles.
Thanks,
Steve
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Does your tank have a sticker on it showing the correct fill lines?
If not, the minimum line is the full level. Over filling can cause venting. I run my coolant 1/2" below the minimum on my tank.
And you are saying the ECT got to 228*? Did your fan roar at that temp? If I recall, the truck should have de-fueled before that temp. Is the EGR valve plugged in?
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06-21-2 COOLANT DEGAS BOTTLE OVERFLOW - 6.0L
Publication Date: October 5, 2006
FORD: 2003-2005 Excursion
2003-2007 F-Super Duty
2004-2006 E-Series
This article supersedes TSB 06-3-8 to update the model year coverage.
ISSUE:
Some 2003-2007 F-Super Duty, 2003-2005 Excursion and 2004-2006 E-Series vehicles, all equipped with a 6.0L engine, may exhibit coolant venting from the degas bottle cap. The condition typically occurs when operating the vehicle under a load such as trailer towing, uphill driving, or both.
ACTION:
Prior to making any repairs verify the coolant level is not overfull. The level should be at the "MIN" line in the degas bottle at operating temperature. Overfilled coolant levels will cause coolant to vent from the degas bottle cap. If the degas bottle is not overfull, and is still venting out coolant, refer to the following Service Procedure.
If not, the minimum line is the full level. Over filling can cause venting. I run my coolant 1/2" below the minimum on my tank.
And you are saying the ECT got to 228*? Did your fan roar at that temp? If I recall, the truck should have de-fueled before that temp. Is the EGR valve plugged in?
TSB
06-21-2 COOLANT DEGAS BOTTLE OVERFLOW - 6.0L
Publication Date: October 5, 2006
FORD: 2003-2005 Excursion
2003-2007 F-Super Duty
2004-2006 E-Series
This article supersedes TSB 06-3-8 to update the model year coverage.
ISSUE:
Some 2003-2007 F-Super Duty, 2003-2005 Excursion and 2004-2006 E-Series vehicles, all equipped with a 6.0L engine, may exhibit coolant venting from the degas bottle cap. The condition typically occurs when operating the vehicle under a load such as trailer towing, uphill driving, or both.
ACTION:
Prior to making any repairs verify the coolant level is not overfull. The level should be at the "MIN" line in the degas bottle at operating temperature. Overfilled coolant levels will cause coolant to vent from the degas bottle cap. If the degas bottle is not overfull, and is still venting out coolant, refer to the following Service Procedure.
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Yes the new Degas bottle has a sticker and the current level cold is about 1/8th inch below the bottom of the sticker. When I picked the truck up I seem to remember that the coolant level was at the MAX level. Yes the fan was at full speed when the temp got up there. It doesn't stay there for very long, maybe 30 seconds or so. Yes the EGR is plugged in, this truck is bone stock except for a coolant filter I installed a couple of years ago.
I live in the west so I am often pulling grades with the 5th wheel hooked up and the temps usually climb into the high 220s but they don't stay there for long. I have never had any codes relating to ECT or EOT. I run an Edge Insight and keep a close eye on things. When the ECT reached that temp the factory gauge was still in the safe zone.
Thanks for the reply.
Steve
I live in the west so I am often pulling grades with the 5th wheel hooked up and the temps usually climb into the high 220s but they don't stay there for long. I have never had any codes relating to ECT or EOT. I run an Edge Insight and keep a close eye on things. When the ECT reached that temp the factory gauge was still in the safe zone.
Thanks for the reply.
Steve
Does your tank have a sticker on it showing the correct fill lines?
If not, the minimum line is the full level. Over filling can cause venting. I run my coolant 1/2" below the minimum on my tank.
And you are saying the ECT got to 228*? Did your fan roar at that temp? If I recall, the truck should have de-fueled before that temp. Is the EGR valve plugged in?
TSB
06-21-2 COOLANT DEGAS BOTTLE OVERFLOW - 6.0L
Publication Date: October 5, 2006
FORD: 2003-2005 Excursion
2003-2007 F-Super Duty
2004-2006 E-Series
This article supersedes TSB 06-3-8 to update the model year coverage.
ISSUE:
Some 2003-2007 F-Super Duty, 2003-2005 Excursion and 2004-2006 E-Series vehicles, all equipped with a 6.0L engine, may exhibit coolant venting from the degas bottle cap. The condition typically occurs when operating the vehicle under a load such as trailer towing, uphill driving, or both.
ACTION:
Prior to making any repairs verify the coolant level is not overfull. The level should be at the "MIN" line in the degas bottle at operating temperature. Overfilled coolant levels will cause coolant to vent from the degas bottle cap. If the degas bottle is not overfull, and is still venting out coolant, refer to the following Service Procedure.
If not, the minimum line is the full level. Over filling can cause venting. I run my coolant 1/2" below the minimum on my tank.
And you are saying the ECT got to 228*? Did your fan roar at that temp? If I recall, the truck should have de-fueled before that temp. Is the EGR valve plugged in?
TSB
06-21-2 COOLANT DEGAS BOTTLE OVERFLOW - 6.0L
Publication Date: October 5, 2006
FORD: 2003-2005 Excursion
2003-2007 F-Super Duty
2004-2006 E-Series
This article supersedes TSB 06-3-8 to update the model year coverage.
ISSUE:
Some 2003-2007 F-Super Duty, 2003-2005 Excursion and 2004-2006 E-Series vehicles, all equipped with a 6.0L engine, may exhibit coolant venting from the degas bottle cap. The condition typically occurs when operating the vehicle under a load such as trailer towing, uphill driving, or both.
ACTION:
Prior to making any repairs verify the coolant level is not overfull. The level should be at the "MIN" line in the degas bottle at operating temperature. Overfilled coolant levels will cause coolant to vent from the degas bottle cap. If the degas bottle is not overfull, and is still venting out coolant, refer to the following Service Procedure.
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I also live in the West. Climb hills with my 8000# TT, and a ton of stuff loaded in the bed, putting me up to near 10,500# for weight.
The highest ECT temp I see is 221*. EOT will get to 235* on occasion.
The new level sticker's max should have been enough to keep it from venting (I think).
Since you have that warranty, I would swing by Ford and let them know what took place, and document the issue now. Might even want to have it scanned for codes, one could have been set without the light coming on. Does the Edge pull pending or soft codes?
The highest ECT temp I see is 221*. EOT will get to 235* on occasion.
The new level sticker's max should have been enough to keep it from venting (I think).
Since you have that warranty, I would swing by Ford and let them know what took place, and document the issue now. Might even want to have it scanned for codes, one could have been set without the light coming on. Does the Edge pull pending or soft codes?
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