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Old Jun 6, 2014 | 08:47 AM
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Reading it now, stupid question...what is WOT?
 
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Old Jun 6, 2014 | 09:41 AM
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WOT = Wide Open Throttle.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2014 | 10:39 AM
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Got it, thanks. In my first post i said i did what the tech in the video i posted did, manually engaged the EGR via the EVR. I wonder now if i was testing with the wrong vacuum regulator. I see 2 in my engine bay, one on the driver side fender well (the one i tested) and one behind the ignition coil pack. Upon closer inspection, it appears this one is where the vacuum hose from the EGR valve runs to. I'm wondering if doing the test in the video on this regulator will engage the EGR valve like i'm wanting and rule that part out...
 
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Old Jun 6, 2014 | 10:56 AM
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As oops did, follow the rubber vacuum line from its EGR valve diaphragm connection point back to the EVR/VSV & that'll be the EGR valve vacuum switching valve/EVR/controller.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2014 | 11:20 AM
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Ok, i tested this from the proper EVR and it gave me a rough idle. I did this while metering the DPFE sensor output and noticed no change. At this point i think i have to assume the valve operation is ok.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2014 | 12:09 PM
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Ok, i tested this from the proper EVR and it gave me a rough idle. I did this while metering the DPFE sensor output and noticed no change. At this point i think i have to assume the valve operation is ok.
OK good feedback, so like oops, look to an EGR control problem, as the test & trouble codes suggests the valve is working, just that the amount of EGR is wimpy. So its not opening wide enough, or long enough to be doing its thing & that suggests a vacuum control problem. The question is it an EVR/VSV leaking vacuum, or a leaky vacuum tubing or connection, or that the computer is getting corrupt info from the DPFE & or other sensors & not having the EVR provide controlling vacuum long enough, so the EGR valve provides the needed recirculation.

So, perform the EVR blow back test oops did & let us know how it goes. Hang in there & persevere & you'll likely find the problem.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2014 | 12:17 PM
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Does the lack of change in voltage on the DPFE under WOT or when manually engaging the EGR point to a faulty sensor?
 
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Old Jun 6, 2014 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiver
Does the lack of change in voltage on the DPFE under WOT or when manually engaging the EGR point to a faulty sensor?
Well, Maybe. Other things need to be checked before condemning the DPFE sensor. If the exhaust & intake manifold feedback hoses connecting to the DPFE are faulty/loose fitting/split/cracked/dry rotted, or the orifice below the EGR valve that provides exhaust gas pressure feedback to the DPFE sensor via the high temp rubber hose, is clogged with carbon, or the hose is clogged up with deposits, or if its dry-rotted/cracked & leaking, it can cause the DPFE to give a false reading to the computer. Same for the intake manifold side vacuum line running to the DPFE sensor.

Are you certain the DPFE sensor is receiving its 5 volt reference???? Are the DPFE electrical pins & sockets in good condition & its electrical connector properly secured. All those things have to be Right for the DPFE to function as designed.

More thoughts for consideration, keep us posted on your trouble shoot.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2014 | 02:19 PM
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I checked the DPFE hoses, they're good. The 5V reference circuit is good. I only see bad things happening if i try to remove the EGR tube, it looks pretty old. I was going to try to remove the EGR valve last weekend but i couldn't even break the nut loose on the bottom of it, i don't even know how i'd reach the bottom bolt of the tube...
 
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Old Jun 6, 2014 | 02:37 PM
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No need to remove the EGR valve to see if the feedback orifice below it is clogged shut, just disconnect the exhaust feedback hose at the DPFE, start the engine & see if you have exhaust blowing out of the hose.

For the vacuum hose, attach it to your vacuum gauge, or put your finger over the hole & see if you can feel suction.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2014 | 02:57 PM
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Definitely have good exhaust flow to the DPFE. I removed the vacuum hose from the EGR valve and i think there's vacuum, i mean i can feel something, it isn't very strong though. I don't have a vacuum gauge, maybe i should invest in one...
 
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Old Jun 6, 2014 | 05:23 PM
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OK that's good that you have good exhaust flow into the DPFE sensor, as it suggests that the orifice below the EGR valve & the exhaust feedback hose to the DPFE sensor are open & flowing exhaust to the DPFE sensor as it should. Now how good was the engine vacuum on the other DPFE (vacuum) hose, when you disconnected it from the DPFE sensor, with the engine running???? Did you have good suction there????
 
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Old Jun 6, 2014 | 05:59 PM
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Oops i did not test that, is that what you meant in your previous post? Check vacuum at the DPFE?
 
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Old Jun 6, 2014 | 06:33 PM
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Yup, disconnect the DPFE vacuum hose & check for vacuum with the engine running, as that'll tell us if the hose & its connection on the other end are ok. If it is, then it looks like the new DPFE sensor belongs at the top of your suspect list, unless someone else can think of something we've missed, or another EGR system test to perform.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2014 | 08:19 PM
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I would say i have good vaccum at the DPFE, i cover the end of the hose with my finger and it creates a seal.
 
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