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Old May 30, 2014 | 10:48 PM
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4.9 runs hot...

1985 F150 w/4.9L: The truck runs hot on long drives and at idle, but hasn't overheated. I have thoughts on it (water pump, thermostat, etc). Any help would be great. Thanks!!
 
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Old May 31, 2014 | 06:58 AM
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What are the signs that it's overheating? I would not trust the factory gauge.
 
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Old May 31, 2014 | 08:20 AM
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What are the signs that it's overheating? I would not trust the factory gauge.
Amen! I overheated one engine and had to rebuild it due to a bad factory gauge. And I troubleshot another truck due to the factory gauge saying it was hot, only to find there was no problem. So now I run aftermarket gauges and tuned up factory gauges.
 
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Old May 31, 2014 | 11:20 AM
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Yeah, what the other guys said...The factory gauges are notoriously screwball.

First step is to get a point and shoot infrared thermometer and take temp readings at the thermostat housing. 190f to 200f is about normal.
 
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Old May 31, 2014 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Brnfree
Yeah, what the other guys said...The factory gauges are notoriously screwball.

First step is to get a point and shoot infrared thermometer and take temp readings at the thermostat housing. 190f to 200f is about normal.
Thanks for the replies. Yeah, I thought the gauge may not be that accurate. The gauge needle stays in the middle 99% of the time (city driving/short trips), tachs up on long drives or at idle. So, I'm guessing it prob. is getting hot. I sprayed down the radiator and cleared out some leaves and stuff. It now runs a bit cooler on the highway, but still heats up at idle. It does seem to still have the factory water pump, so I'm looking to replace that and the thermostat. Also, the lower radiator hose had a small tear in it (replaced it).
 
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Old Jun 1, 2014 | 12:30 PM
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If your oil pressure and fuel gauges also act up at the same time as the temp gauge that's a pretty sure sign the instrument cluster voltage regulator is wonky.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2014 | 02:05 PM
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If the radiator cap isn't holding a good pressure it will overheat. It's an easy and cheap replacement.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2014 | 02:19 PM
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I run an 160 deg thermostat, it would be your cheapest fix.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2014 | 04:04 PM
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Write something here..

The other gauges work without problem. I didn't get to this today...maybe I'll try and get it down tomorrow (Sun and Mon are my days off).
 
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Old Jun 3, 2014 | 02:15 PM
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Since you swapped the lower hose, i'm assuming you reserviced the engine with a fresh coolant mix after flushing it? That'd definitely help to flush it out. Also, check the coolant concentration content thats in the jacket...it can run warm if its too thick of a ratio. Not to insult anyone's intelligence here, just be sure to have the stat facing the correct direction when you replace it. I have been meticulous about working on all my vehicles for years after working on aircraft for so long...its easy to get overconfident and miss the simple stuff. Ask me how i know lol. Is the fan shroud still intact? If its not, or by chance you're not running one, installing a newer will also help out significantly.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2014 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDudeAbides
Since you swapped the lower hose, i'm assuming you reserviced the engine with a fresh coolant mix after flushing it? That'd definitely help to flush it out. Also, check the coolant concentration content thats in the jacket...it can run warm if its too thick of a ratio. Not to insult anyone's intelligence here, just be sure to have the stat facing the correct direction when you replace it. I have been meticulous about working on all my vehicles for years after working on aircraft for so long...its easy to get overconfident and miss the simple stuff. Ask me how i know lol. Is the fan shroud still intact? If its not, or by chance you're not running one, installing a newer will also help out significantly.
Thanks for the reply.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2014 | 02:37 AM
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Update: I swapped out the water pump (NAPA)...one of the holes on the hub ended-up being stripped out...not sure if I should just run a tap or replace it.

Also, swapped out the thermostat...the one in there, was in backwards (shaking my head). I put in a high-flow 160. So far the truck hasn't overheated/gotten hot.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2014 | 01:17 PM
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The 160 'stat is very cold and your engine won't get warm enough to thoroughly dispel the products of combustion out of the oil unless you drive for extended periods. These trucks came with a 192 degree 'stat for several reasons, inc that one.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2014 | 01:39 PM
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It had a 185 in there...but it was in backwards. You would run a 195? What stat/temp is everyone running??
 
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I used to run a 180 deg, but it stuck, truck got to hot. When I went to NAPA they only had 160 or 195 in stock, so I went with the 160. The 180 is the best all around choice unless you are fighting over heating problems. When I use the AC the engine temp is around 180.

I always drill a small 3/32 hole in them to allow a small constant flow and to keep air from getting trapped.

I have had 3 thermostat failures in 5 years, I just am not willing to risk over heating the truck just to be at optimum emissions engine temperature / gas mileage etc...

I would wait until fall and then install a 180 as the heater will work better in the winter.

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