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Old May 18, 2014 | 02:23 PM
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Rubber window seals on 65

My next project is to replace the seals on my 65 windows and side windows. Any advice for suppliers? Leaning towards LMC. Thanks
 
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Old May 18, 2014 | 04:24 PM
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Personally, I would avoid LMC, just from past experience. Go to the source.......Dennis Carpenter.
 
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Old May 18, 2014 | 09:32 PM
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Dittos....Dennis Carpenter extrudes this particular rubber item (and about 90% of all their rubber items) at their shop in the USA.

I've installed DC rubber on several old cars and it is first class.

I won't even consider another vendor unless I know for sure that they're simply reselling DC rubber. Macs for instance, sells a lot of DC rubber....but they also sell some Chinese garbage, so unless you know for sure with Macs, it can be a crap shoot.

What sucks with Macs though, is that if you call them and ask them who the manufacturer of a rubber item is, they won't tell you. I told one of their customer service reps on the phone one time that not disclosing this information would cause me to go elsewhere for the item and she didn't seem to care.

If you call DC on the other hand, and ask them if a particular piece of rubber in their catalog is Chinese made or made in their facility, they'll come right out and tell you...no problem at all.

I know DC stuff is not cheap, but I've become very determined lately to buy quality USA made things whenever and wherever I can. I've had it past the top of my head with Chinese crap.
 
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Old May 19, 2014 | 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by lyndonford
My next project is to replace the seals on my 65 windows and side windows. Any advice for suppliers? Leaning towards LMC. Thanks
I'm going to order from Denis C also. They have stainless ones for a couple bucks more..
 
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Old May 19, 2014 | 09:34 AM
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I see DC has new black powdered coats frames for $95.

My frames are in poor condition.

Any lower priced alternatives than the new frames for $95?
 
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Old May 19, 2014 | 10:07 AM
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I see DC has new black powdered coats frames for $95.

My frames are in poor condition.

Any lower priced alternatives than the new frames for $95?
If it was back 20+ years ago when I was running my 65 CC, I'd say just go to a junk yard, but here in Houston the parts yards consider the 1990's cars "old stuff" and everything from 94 back, they crush.

So it goes back to whether or not you want quality or Chinese garbage. Quality costs money.

There is a guy in Wellington, TX called Owen's Salvage, who has a massive old car parts yard and most of his business is through the mail, but his used stuff is nearly as high as the DC stuff. http://www.owenssalvage.com Give him a call though...he might surprise you. I've used him for several things on my 54 that nobody is reproducing. (His name is Bob Owens...aka...Flattop Bob)
 
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Old May 19, 2014 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Shadowrider123
I see DC has new black powdered coats frames for $95.

My frames are in poor condition.

Any lower priced alternatives than the new frames for $95?
Y'all asking about vent window frames?

C1TZ-8121608-B Right & C1TZ-8121609-B Left .. Vent Frames

73 right sides and 45 left sides available NOS

Same: 1961/66 F100/1100 - 1963/69 N/NT/T500/1100 / 1967/69 F800/1000.

Have y'all contacted Don (camperspecial65) to see how many used frames he may have?
 
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Old May 19, 2014 | 11:32 AM
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Posting a 'how to' thread by CC on the topic of replacing door components which has very little, or nothing to say about replacing the vent window gasket but later may find it comes in handy?? Appears fairly thorough:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/4...ml#post3283655

If decide to purchase the gasket from DC suggest contact them and inquire if item is in stock; in addition, have them include copy of their free catalog and ask them if the catalog still has the 'how to' article on installing the vent window gasket; if it does not, perhaps they can provide a copy of the article with the order?? Use to be able to read the article on their website in their PDF parts catalog but I just pulled the catalog up and could not find the article??
 
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I have both the NOS ones and the reproduction vent frames from DC. I'd have to give the reproductions the nod in this case as they have modified them in a good way from stock. Instead of an "L" shaped stud for the lower pivot they went with a "T" shaped stud. This allows 4 rivets, two on each arm of the cross of the "T", instead of just 2 rivets total on the one arm of the "L". This seems to give it more stability so it doesn't work as much, which leads to failure in many cases.

I can take pictures later of the difference if anyone is interested.
 
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Old May 19, 2014 | 12:20 PM
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I have both the NOS ones and the reproduction vent frames from DC. I'd have to give the reproductions the nod in this case as they have modified them in a good way from stock. Instead of an "L" shaped stud for the lower pivot they went with a "T" shaped stud. This allows 4 rivets, two on each arm of the cross of the "T", instead of just 2 rivets total on the one arm of the "L". This seems to give it more stability so it doesn't work as much, which leads to failure in many cases.
But, how many people even bother to open the vent windows any more? The more they're opened, the faster the w/strips and mechanism wears out.

GM introduced "No Draft Ventilation" in 1934, soon all the other automakers followed.

Smokers love movable vent windows, cuz they can flick their cigar/cigarette ashes out, without the ashes blowing back into their faces or onto the rear seat, possibly starting a fire.
 
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Old May 19, 2014 | 12:56 PM
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Thanks for the info. I'll check out DC and the "how to" link. Much appreciated!
 
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Only 8% of Americans still smoke.
 
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yea! my wife is 8 in a 100. i knew she was special. <insert frown here>
 
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According to several health enthusiast, me in particular, suggest an occasional stoogie and a pint of fine micro brew is good for the heath; further, after some 40 plus years Smoky the Bear has not had reason to say anything to me so imagine it's okay with him; besides, if it were not for the sin tax our elected officials would be finding some other means to punk the tax payer in order to support their spending binge.
 
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Originally Posted by daveengelson
According to several health enthusiast, me in particular, suggest an occasional stoogie and a pint of fine micro brew is good for the heath; further, after some 40 plus years Smoky the Bear has not had reason to say anything to me so imagine it's okay with him; besides, if it were not for the sin tax our elected officials would be finding some other means to punk the tax payer in order to support their spending binge.
Heath is the ground cover one will find on the rolling hills and moors of Scotland. So how much good a stoogie and a fine micro brew will do for it...I dunno.

And...it's Smokey Bear, not Smoky the Bear.
 
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