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Old May 12, 2014 | 04:16 PM
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Hour long oil changes...

Ok. Did an oil change on the '49 today. 239 Flathead stock canister bypass style. I've gotten tired of taking the whole assembly off and pouring the oil out each time so it's time to do something. I know the filter was an option so I could eliminate it as I've heard some on here do. Not sure I'd feel good about that yet. Or I could drill and tap a hole and put a drain plug in. That could potentially create a mess and I hate spilled oil. This would get most of it out but not all. And that's all I can think of. I'm open to ideas.

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Some of the canisters came with drain valves, it's a good idea.
 
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Originally Posted by ALBUQ F-1
Some of the canisters came with drain valves, it's a good idea.
Hmmm....that's good to know..thanks. The canister appears to just be steel and not some kind of pot metal that would shatter if drilled.
 
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Old May 12, 2014 | 05:35 PM
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It's steel but not thick enough for a reliable seal. The ones with factory drains have a thick washer or plate welded over a hole, that gets threaded.
 
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Old May 13, 2014 | 01:43 PM
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Unless you are trying to stay totally original Speedway makes an inexpensive spin-on, by-pass filter assembly that allows you to use canister-type filters that are not as messy when you need to replace the filter.

Ford Spin-On Bypass Adapter - Speedway Motors, America's Oldest Speed Shop
 
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Old May 13, 2014 | 01:52 PM
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Just use one of these things to pull out the 1/2 quart or so that is usually sitting inside the canister. That's a whole lot easier than taking all of that apart each time.

 
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Old May 13, 2014 | 02:05 PM
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All three of ya have good options on this. I appreciate it!! On a funnier note....but not too funny I had the oil container w/ engine bracket sitting on my bench while I was cleaning it up. Well it started rolling when I turned my head after propping it up "securely." I'm so used to catching things with the top of my feet that when it dropped off the edge I stuck my foot out to catch it. I caught it alright...right on a toe. And not even a big toe! Looked down at my foot this morning and I have one solid red toe. My trucks way of telling me not to take that part off again....hence this thread.
 
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Old May 13, 2014 | 02:28 PM
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Unless you are trying to stay totally original Speedway makes an inexpensive spin-on, by-pass filter assembly that allows you to use canister-type filters that are not as messy when you need to replace the filter.

Ford Spin-On Bypass Adapter - Speedway Motors, America's Oldest Speed Shop
If you read their description closely, that is not a bypass adapter. It's a remote filter adapter. It is meant to screw onto the block and provide hose connections.

Bypass filter elements are several times more efficient at removing small particles than a throwaway full-flow element. That's the trade-off with only filtering 10% of the oil.
 
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Originally Posted by ALBUQ F-1
If you read their description closely, that is not a bypass adapter. It's a remote filter adapter. It is meant to screw onto the block and provide hose connections.

Bypass filter elements are several times more efficient at removing small particles than a throwaway full-flow element. That's the trade-off with only filtering 10% of the oil.
Thanks for the clarification Ross . . . but it says by-pass filter

I'm not sure that my engine that was designed not to have any filter could tell the difference?
 
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Yeah they do call it that. I'd have just called it a Remote Filter Adapter if I were them...but I'm not...lol.
 
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i have this oil filter which does have the drain plug mentioned above. you can have it for free/you pay shipping from 12302. you would prob want to clean it up and paint it, but it's yours for the asking. PM me if interested. dick r.
 
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Thanks! Pm sent.
 
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I'm one of those guys that runs his flatheads without a filter. My engines are clean inside. Today's oil is way better and I change it more often and it's so quick and easy. I run Shell Rotella T diesel rated with zinc. More oil pressure too without that hole in the system. I know many will dissagree, but oil filters were an option and Ford attained a reputation for durable and reliable engines way before the '50s without them. Been thinking of replacing the drainplug with a petcock with a rod linked to it. Kick the drain pan underneath, pull the lever, push it back in. Bust out the gallon jug of rotella and the funnel. Stand-up oil change! Oh, and the drain pan has a string to pull it back out with
 
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I'm one of those guys that runs his flatheads without a filter. My engines are clean inside. Today's oil is way better and I change it more often and it's so quick and easy. I run Shell Rotella T diesel rated with zinc. More oil pressure too without that hole in the system. I know many will dissagree, but oil filters were an option and Ford attained a reputation for durable and reliable engines way before the '50s without them. Been thinking of replacing the drainplug with a petcock with a rod linked to it. Kick the drain pan underneath, pull the lever, push it back in. Bust out the gallon jug of rotella and the funnel. Stand-up oil change! Oh, and the drain pan has a string to pull it back out with
What a hoot! I'd love a stand up oil change since it looks like I'll never have a lift. So did you just block off both oil lines that go to and from the oil filter? I wouldn't think you would loop it. Just curious.
 
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Just pipe plugs. I daily drove a 38 tonner through the 80's and iirc it's engine had never been tapped for a filter. Coming up with a stand up grease job would be a real challenge. You'd need a complex grease manifold, but those zerks ARE threaded! I'm in my sixties and the under the truck stuff has lost some of it's previous lustre. Edit: Oh wait, that wouldn't work out so well on the u-joints!
 
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