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Old May 12, 2014 | 02:19 AM
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Cold Air Intake

I have a 2013 Ford F350 stock that I was looking at installing aftermarket air intake on. I did some research and found K&N 71 Series Blackhawk Air Intake System, that claims it will do well for truck I was wondering if anyone had any experience with this product or similar product that would be better. Additionally, I was going to install a throttle body spacer in conjunction with the air intake to maximize results, any suggests or reviews for this setup would be much appreciated, thank you.
 
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Old May 12, 2014 | 04:56 AM
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Check out s&b filters too
 
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Throttle body spacer? Never heard of it for the 6.7 diesel and if so, likely unnecessary.

Good intake helps - X2 for S&B intake.

S&B Cold Air Intake | 2011-13 Ford 6.7L Powerstroke (Cleanable Filter)
 
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Old May 12, 2014 | 07:44 AM
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I've not had much luck with K&N, but they are a very effective marketing company. S&B CAI is by far the most bang for your buck. I'd stay away from the throttle body spacer...that's another minimal gain (if any) from the gasoline engines. You'd be better off getting a DPF back exhaust. Adding a CAI and DPF exhaust will add a slightly different sound (very minor), but it will get rid of the hissing sound you hear now and allow you to hear a slight turbo whistle.
 
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Old May 12, 2014 | 07:52 AM
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I used to be a KN believer, now I am Ford Motorcraft converted. They do an excellent filtration job, allow for good sucktration, at a very reasonable price.
 
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Old May 13, 2014 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by WildWildWest
Throttle body spacer? Never heard of it for the 6.7 diesel and if so, likely unnecessary.

Good intake helps - X2 for S&B intake.

S&B Cold Air Intake | 2011-13 Ford 6.7L Powerstroke (Cleanable Filter)
Thanks for all the input, I looked into S&B and they appear to be a legit operation and about $100 cheaper compared to what I was going to get with K&N. Additionally, I am going to be performing an exhaust down pipe back kit with EGR delete and tuner but first I have to move out of Cali. With the S&B air intake by itself what performance improvements have you seen if any?
 
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Old May 13, 2014 | 08:34 AM
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I've not had much luck with K&N, but they are a very effective marketing company. S&B CAI is by far the most bang for your buck. I'd stay away from the throttle body spacer...that's another minimal gain (if any) from the gasoline engines. You'd be better off getting a DPF back exhaust. Adding a CAI and DPF exhaust will add a slightly different sound (very minor), but it will get rid of the hissing sound you hear now and allow you to hear a slight turbo whistle.
As posted in my previous reply I cannot do the exhaust or tuner quite yet. Is there anything else intake related or "bolt on" that is available that I can do that will increase performance and efficiency of my engine? I am thinking of replacing the belt driven fan with an electric fan to free up some mechanic resistance. What do you think?
 
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Old May 13, 2014 | 08:40 AM
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As posted in my previous reply I cannot do the exhaust quite and tuner quite yet. Is there anything else intake related or "bolt on" that is available that I can do that will increase performance and efficiency of my engine? I am thinking of replacing the belt driven clutch fan with an electric fan to free up some mechanic resistance. What do you think?
You can do a DPF back exhaust - that's what the previous poster was saying. Basically a different tailpipe from the diesel particulate filter back. None of these by itself will change your performance significantly until you delete.

However, that being said, just running a good tuner like H&S on your stock truck will make a difference even with the emissions in place. I ran my H&S for three months on the stock truck before I deleted everything and it still was better than nothing.

Don't bother with the fan mod - this is a diesel, not a gas truck - no parasitic power drain from your fan. This beast has too much torque to worry about the fan - for the most part it provides virtually no resistance the way they are designed now.

In summary, without doing a delete, in my opinion, this is all you need in order of most important to least important.
1) H&S Street tuner (MiniMaxx). This will be noticeable. Especially on Performance setting.
2) S&B CAI. Small sound change - better flow. More noticeable turbo sound.
3) DPF Back Exhaust (after the DPF). Slightly less whistle/hiss from the tailpipe.

That's it!! Other so-called power adders would be a waste.
 
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Originally Posted by Wasinator
As posted in my previous reply I cannot do the exhaust or tuner quite yet. Is there anything else intake related or "bolt on" that is available that I can do that will increase performance and efficiency of my engine? I am thinking of replacing the belt driven fan with an electric fan to free up some mechanic resistance. What do you think?
You don't need a tuner for a DPF back exhaust.
 
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Old May 13, 2014 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by WildWildWest
You can do a DPF back exhaust - that's what the previous poster was saying. Basically a different tailpipe from the diesel particulate filter back. None of these by itself will change your performance significantly until you delete.

However, that being said, just running a good tuner like H&S on your stock truck will make a difference even with the emissions in place. I ran my H&S for three months on the stock truck before I deleted everything and it still was better than nothing.
WildWildWest,

I am tracking now on what you are saying. However, the question I am asking myself is do I buy a DFF back exhaust that I am going to replace in a year? With that being said I cannot run the tuner until then either because of warranty issues. Once my truck hits 30K miles all bets are off and the truck will be fully tuned but before I go hog wild I want to work out any factory kinks first while they will still pay for it.
 
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WildWildWest,

I am tracking now on what you are saying. However, the question I am asking myself is do I buy a DFF back exhaust that I am going to replace in a year? With that being said I cannot run the tuner until then either because of warranty issues. Once my truck hits 30K miles all bets are off and the truck will be fully tuned but before I go hog wild I want to work out any factory kinks first while they will still pay for it.
All you do is buy the delete pipe which runs from the down pipe at the front to the end of the where the factory DPF is to eliminate all of that rocket ship of fail. So you still would use the DPF back exhaust you buy and install now.

P.S. Don't mess with the belt and electronic fan. If you want more power, tune it with DPF present to return to stock easy or delete it and risk the warranty. That is how you get more power...not with small minute adjustments that you will never feel in the 6.7.
 
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Old May 13, 2014 | 08:50 AM
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You don't need a tuner for a DPF back exhaust.
Savage,

I have seen you in multiple threads covering a vast amount of topics so I value you opinion. I am not trying to be difficult and I understand you are replying best that you can with the information that I have provided. Which I appreciate, but I have a do it all at once mentallity.
 
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Old May 13, 2014 | 08:52 AM
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I had an S&B on my 2011 F250 and it was nice (quality). I believe there was a very slight gain in MPG, but it was barely noticeable.
 
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Savage,

I have seen you in multiple threads covering a vast amount of topics so I value you opinion. I am not trying to be difficult and I understand you are replying best that you can with the information that I have provided. Which I appreciate, but I have a do it all at once mentallity.
Good luck I'm trying to help you. If you have more questions, please ask. I find that responding to people that are not familiar that the "less fluff and opinion" in answers is better. So ask away...
 
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Old May 13, 2014 | 08:53 AM
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All you do is buy the delete pipe which runs from the down pipe at the front to the end of the where the factory DPF is to eliminate all of that rocket ship of fail. So you still would use the DPF back exhaust you buy and install now.
Savage,

I read this post after I posted my previous, ok I can do that by adding in a delete pipe when the time comes. That would make be very do able and spread the cost of the project over time (easier to sell to the wife). What is a good company to go with for this application?
 
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