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Old May 11, 2014 | 09:12 PM
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Hi all X ?

Hi everyone I'm new to the site. But not to fords I have an E99 superduty 7.3 and we're on our 2nd 1st gen expy.

We are going to buy a V10 X this week and we have looked at 2 of them and are scheduled to test drive in a few days.

The 1st is a 2000 Limited with 120,xxx miles on it no dents, I interior is very nice. Asking price is $9000

The 2nd is a 2004 Limited with 116,xxx miles on it just as nice as the 1st asking price is $14,000

Is there a reason to pay the 5,000 for the 04?

Do I gain anything in the 04 that the 00 won't have? Ride quality?

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Old May 11, 2014 | 10:27 PM
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Nothing really to gain in the '04, they are all pretty much the same. I Guess they are going up, I paid 9 for my nice Limited 4 years ago with 120k miles. The suspension, engines, etc. are all the same. I think the grill is different in '05 and maybe '04, and maybe some very minor things. Good miles on that '00!
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Old May 12, 2014 | 12:39 AM
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The only real changes in the V-10 between those years was that the newer ones have the better head design that has more threads for the sparkplugs, the earlier ones only have a couple of threads for the plugs and some have a history of spitting plugs if they are not changed and torqued properly. Ride quality should be about they same, the EXs all share the same suspensions and those two are pretty close in miles. Spend some time under the rigs and look for any rust issues. What are the plans for the EX? If you are going to be towing with it the 4.30 gears make the V-10 happier to climb hills, the V-10s either have the more common 3.73 gears or the less common but better towing 4.30s. Another thing to consider if towing is in the plans is that the 2000's hitch is rated at a lower trailer weight than the 2004, both hitches and drive trains are the same but the newer models got larger bolts holding the hitches to the frame, it's an easy bolt swap to upgrade it to the newer spec.
 
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Old May 12, 2014 | 10:21 AM
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Thanks for the responses. The EX will be my wife's daily driver as it is replacing our 02 expy. And it will be the road trip vehicle as we have some big trips coming up. The biggest reason for getting one is basketball and wrestling season the expy has 0 room for gear or anything for that matter behind the 3rd row. For towing we will tow our boat (3800 lbs) 20 mile round trip to the launch. No matter which way we go there is a 10% grade to get home.
 
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Old May 12, 2014 | 10:46 AM
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Thanks for the responses. The EX will be my wife's daily driver as it is replacing our 02 expy. And it will be the road trip vehicle as we have some big trips coming up. The biggest reason for getting one is basketball and wrestling season the expy has 0 room for gear or anything for that matter behind the 3rd row. For towing we will tow our boat (3800 lbs) 20 mile round trip to the launch. No matter which way we go there is a 10% grade to get home.
 
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Old May 12, 2014 | 11:14 AM
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The plugs should be OK if you put them in right......ride is the same
 
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Old May 12, 2014 | 11:40 AM
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There are actually quite a few differences between the 2000 Limited and the 2004 Limited.

The 2004 Limited will have additional features that the 2000 Limited doesn't have like:

-Dual Power, memory, heated seats
-Automatic Climate control
-On wheel controls for the radio and A/C
-Other updates to the interior and rest of the vehicle that address previous issues.

You can always negotiate the price down on the 2004, but if it were me, I'd go for the '04. Between my '01 and '05 Excursion, I find the '05 to be much more comfortable than the '01 becuase of the additional creature comforts, but especially because of the 6.0
 
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Old May 12, 2014 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Toreador_Diesel
There are actually quite a few differences between the 2000 Limited and the 2004 Limited.

The 2004 Limited will have additional features that the 2000 Limited doesn't have like:

-Dual Power, memory, heated seats
-Automatic Climate control
-On wheel controls for the radio and A/C
-Other updates to the interior and rest of the vehicle that address previous issues.

You can always negotiate the price down on the 2004, but if it were me, I'd go for the '04. Between my '01 and '05 Excursion, I find the '05 to be much more comfortable than the '01 becuase of the additional creature comforts, but especially because of the 6.0
But the 2000 has heated seats and he can see what they both have anyway. I wouldn't want any of that stuff, just more to go wrong. Every useless climate control I ever had turned out to be an expensive nightmare.
 
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Old May 12, 2014 | 03:31 PM
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They both have dual heated power seats and EATC... I have rebuilt 2 EATC one in an explorer and one in our expy... My SD has the basic ****. 240k still works awesome
 
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Old May 12, 2014 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 02expy
They both have dual heated power seats and EATC... I have rebuilt 2 EATC one in an explorer and one in our expy... My SD has the basic ****. 240k still works awesome
You're absolutely sure the 2000 model has automatic climate control? That wasn't an option until the 2002 model year on the Excursion. The same goes for dual power, heated seats unless they retrofitted later seats into the earlier truck.

With the 2000 you had the option of heated seats, but only the driver seat was power. The passenger seat was a manual seat that you had to pull up a handle to move.

Just making sure someone isn't trying to take you for a ride....
 
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Old May 12, 2014 | 08:20 PM
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I also suspect 2000 didn't have adjustable pedals

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Old May 12, 2014 | 08:24 PM
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I'd buy the one with more buttons cause I like to fiddle with stuff.
 
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Old May 12, 2014 | 08:26 PM
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I'm positive on the EATC, and will check the seats when we test drive them
 
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Old May 12, 2014 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 02expy
I'm positive on the EATC, and will check the seats when we test drive them
My 2000 has heated on both sides but the pass side isn't power.
 
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Old May 12, 2014 | 09:47 PM
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I'd buy the one with more buttons cause I like to fiddle with stuff.

Ditto.......

 
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