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Old Apr 16, 2014 | 03:12 PM
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hey all, i had a mechanic who is a very good one with a good past with him, replace my rear main seals and at the same time, i got new brake shoes on both sides, about 3 days after i got it back we were checking the brakes for a noise (which was just a little rust) and pulled the back drivers side off to check, well it was so hot the oil that was on them yet from the rear seal smoke like crazy... and it had been sitting for an hour!!! well we adjusted them back and took it back to the mechanic who replaced the brake cylinder as that proved to be bad out of the box. all was good for a month, and just now the brakes are dragging again, i was backing up, heard a clunk and i could feel the brakes dragging again, i checked them (with my hand, not a good idea) and the drivers side is wayyy hotter than the passenger side, i do not believe the passenger side is dragging. so my question is, do the star adjusters adjust the brakes tighter after you have adjusted them back to prevent dragging? will new adjusters help? cause this really sucks i get crap gas mileage and i imagine the heat is hard on other parts as well
 
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Old Apr 16, 2014 | 03:40 PM
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on the 'star' adjuster, do you have something (stop lever) to hold it in place? You should be able to turn it one way with some pressure but to turn it the other way you would probably need to remove the pressure on the stop lever that is on the star adjuster.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2014 | 04:04 PM
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on the 'star' adjuster, do you have something (stop lever) to hold it in place? You should be able to turn it one way with some pressure but to turn it the other way you would probably need to remove the pressure on the stop lever that is on the star adjuster.
it was a little while ago so i cant remember exactly if there was a stop lever, but i do know it did turn one way with some resistance, never tried to turn it the other way
 
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Old Apr 16, 2014 | 04:39 PM
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I'm assuming your talking abut the 92 in your username. If this wasn't a problem before and all of a sudden is after he replaced the brakes and wheel cylinder, I would say the brake line is your culprit. It was probably moved out of the way or kinked or twisted during the process. If I do wheel cylinders or calipers on anything, I replace the soft lines that have age on them. Do the brake screw into the wheel cylinder or are they banjo bolted. If they are banjo bolted and the wrong banjo was used this will happen as well.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2014 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Crewcabber
I'm assuming your talking abut the 92 in your username. If this wasn't a problem before and all of a sudden is after he replaced the brakes and wheel cylinder, I would say the brake line is your culprit. It was probably moved out of the way or kinked or twisted during the process. If I do wheel cylinders or calipers on anything, I replace the soft lines that have age on them. Do the brake screw into the wheel cylinder or are they banjo bolted. If they are banjo bolted and the wrong banjo was used this will happen as well.
yes, i am talking about my 92, as for the brake line it does seem shorter now than the other one, as for the last question i have no idea, guess i never looked, dont even know if i could tell if i looked, it is just odd that it took awhile before it did it and it made a CLUNK as it started doing it
 
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What happens when the hose goes bad internally or the wrong banjo bolt is used the fluid can go thru to the wheel cylinder with ease like normal, but it cannot release itself because there is no force helping it push back out of the cylinder.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2014 | 07:16 PM
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It would not be the first time someone installed the brake shoes wrong. Even "good" mechanics make a mistake. When they are installed wrong the adjusters can keep tightening the shoes.

Reference the diagram below. The "leading" shoe" is the smaller of the two.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2014 | 07:25 PM
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Backing up and stoping several times will engage the automatic adjust and tighten the shoes against the drums as well.

Simple test let the truck sit and see if the brake release them selves if they do its a hose or valve. If not the shoes are on backwards.
 
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