Stewart....we're getting bogged down in semantics here. It appears when you refer the "new" you're talking off the shelf production piece. And you're correct.

I maintain that while a hybrid is a conglomeration of parts.....all those parts could be "new"....New body, new intensifier piston, nozzle, etc:...without a remanned part at all. It would cost a King's ransom though.

Embrace it brotha...we can both be right!

 

My experience for what it's worth....

I have had Swamps 175/146 remaned injectors in my F-250 for @ 80,000 miles. Mostly use this vehicle to pull our 31' 5th wheel camper (sometimes a boat in tandem). I love towing with this setup.....set the cruise at 70 and sit back and watch the autopilot. 350HP, 700 torque on the Dyno. We pull the camper to the Rockies, Florida, the Black Hills & the Smokie Mtns.....

I'd buy them again in a heartbeat.

 

I'm running remans also. Rosewood Diesel rebuilt my original AB's into 160 AC's
I went with new plungers, barrels, & nozzles. 21k miles & no issues thus far.

If I could do it over again, I would throw in $600 more & get new AC's from Clay. New is new...

 

He said it fist thing in the video, "The Baddest Diesel shop in the world" With the emphasis on "Bad"

 

Not really. There's no bogging down or even splitting of hairs.

Jetdoc stressed to the OP to buy brand new injectors. That can ONLY be done with AC codes or B codes. Since I seriously doubt he's gonna go with B codes, I stated it was extremely limiting to consider just new injectors because the OP might want a hybrid injector.

I didn't set the parameters of the word "new" when the term was used for buying injectors. That was done by Jetdoc, so Jetdoc was the one stressing to the OP to buy off the shelf production. So, my comment about hybrids not fitting the definition of "new," as the term was used and applied to injectors in this discussion, is absolutely correct because, what is a remanned injector? It's an injector with used parts. What is a hybrid injector? It's an injector with used parts.

Yes, it could be done with brand new parts from brand new injectors (if they still make B codes brand new....I dunno if they do or not). But so can building your own rocketship.

So that's not really saying much.

About the same as building your own rocketship...

No, not really. Not as the term "new" was used by Jetdoc.

Sorry brother, by definition, even if I hit the lottery and could afford to buy all new injectors and send them to an injector builder to have hybrids put together, I would have to say I have hybrids with all new parts, but I couldn't claim they were brand new injectors.

Stewart

 

Distinction without difference.

 

Actually theres a huge difference. But I tell you what, when you show me where I can buy brand new hybrids, I'll gladly adjust the information I post to include that newfound fact.

Stewart

PS - Your assertion I quoted is incorrectly applied.
PSS - Correction, I thought your assertion was applied to my whole post, but you quoted one specific part. I'll give you that one, LOL! But a person still cannot buy new hybrids. So like I originally stated, urging the OP to buy only new injectors is severely limiting.

 

According to my local IH dealer you can no longer buy new AB injectors, only remaned. The injectors that I bought that were advertised as AC injectors are no more than *******ized AB injectors.....They have a AB part number. I wanted to trade them in for new AC's but they wouldn't do it because the part number was an AB number.

He asked for advice and I gave it to him. There is no way in Hades that I could recommend rebuilt injectors after what I and others have been through. These rebuilt injectors and crappy tuning "severely limited" my truck. A 1500 mistake on my part. Money I can not afford not even mentioning the time involved.

Good luck OP.

 

I believe the bulk of us understand Dan's point about being able to buy all new parts to build a "virgin" never been run before hybrid injector; albeit it will be spendy, but then again spendy is relative compared to all the labor time and down time chasing down injector issues caused by a rare reman gone bad.

Granted the vast majority of remans are probably fine and function well for a long service life, if they have even a 2% failure rate one out of 10 guys will have an issue requiring ripping the VCs off and swapping which is a PITA and God help you if you pay a shop to do the initial install, who covers the cost of the swap? You injector vendor? Good luck with that argument, heck we could barely get tuners with customer money to deliver tunes in a reasonable timeframe .......

Any who.......to settle the "new" symantics let's call the concept "Virgin Hybrids".....maybe beacause I just like saying "virgin" multiple times......

 

Livin' the dream right now.........

 

I ordered a set of full force injectors well see how they work out

 

Which ones?

 

Sorry I just realized I never responded, I run 2 stroke out every tank, about a quart per tank, along with power service.

 

Well,I tried! Hope you have better luck than I did. Choose your tuner wisely.

 

Rare? Maybe I've been hanging around the forum too long or have the worst luck on the planet... but rare?

I've had remans, and I've talked to plenty of people on the phone, in the PMs, and on the forum with remans. It was fully worth the trouble and expense to swap out my fresh remans for new... that's how much I like remans.



I should point something out... that is very valuable information in those videos. Metal wear: How much metal did he add to the injector body and components... to compensate for wear? I saw a grinder... not much of an adder.