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Old Apr 1, 2014 | 02:23 AM
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paint?

Just a question for you all because ive been curious about this for awhile myself.

A friend is painting his 60's ford with gloss black rustoleum with HVLP gun. Its just standard gloss black paint in the quart cans like you get at Home depot. Ive always thought that's not a good paint for a car. He says its cheap and will work and last a few years. What do you all think?

Will it work for a base and final coat or will he need to spray a clear over it?
 
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Old Apr 1, 2014 | 04:05 AM
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Yep it's cheap, will work and last a few years. It will last longer with a good automotive clear though. As long as it's enamel I really see no issues. Prep is 90 percent of a great paint job anyway.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2014 | 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by co425
Yep it's cheap, will work and last a few years. It will last longer with a good automotive clear though. As long as it's enamel I really see no issues. Prep is 90 percent of a great paint job anyway.
He wants to do a two tone. Would this have worked better?
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/su...p300/overview/
 
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Old Apr 1, 2014 | 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperDuty93
He wants to do a two tone. Would this have worked better?
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/su...p300/overview/

Work better no! Look better probably, as long as you can lay down a good coat of paint. Like I said before, prep is everything. $200 dollars a gallon house of color can look like crap over terrible prep work.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2014 | 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by co425
Work better no! Look better probably, as long as you can lay down a good coat of paint. Like I said before, prep is everything. $200 dollars a gallon house of color can look like crap over terrible prep work.
Well ill try to stop him cuz he thinks regular rustoleum will be fine vs this tractor paint, I personally think he should go the auto paint rout and do nice prep work.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2014 | 07:45 AM
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How much is the house paint and tractor paint? I would much rather shoot some of PPG's cheap OMNI line in a single stage enamel once than have to do it all over again. I really hate doing things twice.. Call your local carquest and see how much they would charge to mix up a gallon.

As others have said prep work is 90% of the work. A kandy koat from House of Kolor will look like crap if the body work is crap. If it looks good in bare metal, then shoot with a primer close to a tint that you want the color to be. Look over the body very carefully and block sand any imperfections. What you see in primer will be twice as worse in color.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2014 | 08:05 AM
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I've been curious about using Rustoleum oil-based paint on a vehicle so as a test I'm gonna shoot my lawn tractor project with their Safety Orange in the next couple of weeks using an old school siphon gun. We'll see how it goes.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2014 | 08:18 AM
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This seems to come up every month or so. I did it to my old truck in 2004

What I did additionally was to clear it with rustoleum rattle can clear. Now for the truth:
1)It will hold up fine
2) It will chalk if you don't clear it
3) The clear doesn't want to lay really smooth, so plan on wetsanding
4) Prep is the most important part of ANY paint job
 
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Old Apr 1, 2014 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by teds74ford
This seems to come up every month or so. I did it to my old truck in 2004

What I did additionally was to clear it with rustoleum rattle can clear. Now for the truth:
1)It will hold up fine
2) It will chalk if you don't clear it
3) The clear doesn't want to lay really smooth, so plan on wetsanding
4) Prep is the most important part of ANY paint job
Looks good! Is that tractor paint or rust oil based enamel?


Originally Posted by HIO Silver
I've been curious about using Rustoleum oil-based paint on a vehicle so as a test I'm gonna shoot my lawn tractor project with their Safety Orange in the next couple of weeks using an old school siphon gun. We'll see how it goes.
Let us know how it goes

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How much is the house paint and tractor paint? I would much rather shoot some of PPG's cheap OMNI line in a single stage enamel once than have to do it all over again. I really hate doing things twice.. Call your local carquest and see how much they would charge to mix up a gallon.

As others have said prep work is 90% of the work. A kandy koat from House of Kolor will look like crap if the body work is crap. If it looks good in bare metal, then shoot with a primer close to a tint that you want the color to be. Look over the body very carefully and block sand any imperfections. What you see in primer will be twice as worse in color.
Tractor paint is like $30 for a gallon which isn't to bad. Valspar has the tractor and doesn't make a clear for it of what ive seen unless I just cant find it. Ill call carquest and see what they say before he starts painting.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2014 | 09:28 PM
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I have used Rustoleum on running boards and such. Also the white Dent on my Dent is Rustoleum sprayed with a HVLP gun and big nozzle. 3 years old and it looks fine. I have used red Rustleum primer under automotive enamel also (with plenty of cure time). When well dry it sands nicely.

Nothing wrong with Rustoleum but it does have its quirks. It is hard to lay it on as smooth as automotive paint, it is slow to harden and it can chalk over time. Still, it can provide good looks and good protection.

As another option, I used autocolorlibrary.com mail order house brand acrylic enamel for the main paint on my dent. It lays on smooth, covers well and holds up. Price is reasonable as auto paint goes.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2014 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperDuty93
Looks good! Is that tractor paint or rust oil based enamel?
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Regular rustoleum with rattle can clear wetsanded
 
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but just a quickie. Ted, every time I see those Jackmans I want to steal them. Hijack over.
 
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but just a quickie. Ted, every time I see those Jackmans I want to steal them. Hijack over.
Haha I think the same thing!
 
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 08:21 AM
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Sometimes I think I should have saved them when I sold the truck. They were really heavy, though.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 09:46 PM
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Here's my rustoleum paint job - in a few months it will be a year. So far, so good and it sits out in the New Mexico sun every day. If interested, here's the thread on my experience:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...paint-job.html

 
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