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Old Apr 1, 2014 | 12:58 AM
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Timken axle

Hello-new to the forum-I joined because I had read that several members posted about replacing their stock Timken axle (on early 50s F3s, iirc) with something more modern/practical.

I am looking for the Timken factory limited slip for my 1948 ****** truck as I still use it up in the hills and on trails.

If anyone has one of these behemoths (just need the LS/differential gears)that would be willing to part with them at a reasonable price, please contact me or respond to this thread and i'll try to get back!

thanks, Duane in Oregon
 
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Old Apr 1, 2014 | 04:29 PM
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have u looked at the dana 60 rears from the F250 ?? late 60 to late 70's have the same spring perch width. and come in various ratios. u may want to ad your location for someone just might be down the road and not know.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2014 | 06:52 PM
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I have two parts Timken axles, one from a 41 3/4 ton Ford and one from a 47 1 ton Ford. Both of these have open differentials. However I am gathering parts to put a limited slip into my 49 3/4 ton. Message me for more information.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2014 | 08:32 PM
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Delawarebill-I am aware of modern replacements such as the Dana 44 and 60, but I'm trying to keep my old ****** as stock in appearance as possible. I also use my 48 ****** off-road, and am hoping to drive it to Moab to run some of the trails there. I love the reaction I get from the "extreme 4x4" crowd as a 65 year old truck with skinny tires walks up the same trail their 25k "extreme" trailer Queen went on. Especially sweet if it is running a funky Timken-banjo-style axle!
I'm not positive that the Timken used on the Fords is the same or comparable as the one ****** used I their early 1-ton trucks. Ido know that Ford offered the limited slip'other than that, I really don't know much. I know this isn't the easy or practical solution, but none of us would be driving old trucks if we liked the easy away out!
 
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Old Apr 1, 2014 | 10:28 PM
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Subscribing. Never heard of a Timken limited slip, and haven't seen one listed in any of the Ford literature. Was it aftermarket? Stu
 
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Old Apr 1, 2014 | 10:36 PM
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I found reference to it in period Timken advertisement specifically referring a 1950ish Ford. I have no idea how common, or scarce they are.
 
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Old Apr 1, 2014 | 10:40 PM
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38 coupe- I'm having a hard time sending you a pm. Do you have any insight, parts # or other intel in these things?
 
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by elminero
I found reference to it in period Timken advertisement specifically referring a 1950ish Ford. I have no idea how common, or scarce they are.
There is no Ford truck parts catalog listing for a Timken axle with Limited Slip.

1959 was the first year Ford offered Limited Slip in Passenger Cars (9"), F100's (Dana 44) and F250's (Dana 60).

1959/67 F100: If Limited Slip was ordered, Ford installed a Dana rear axle. F100 w/9" Limited Slip wasn't available until 1968.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 08:50 PM
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To my knowledge Ford never offered a limited slip with the Timken axle. However, I think old after market parts fit.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2014 | 08:51 PM
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The original "Detroit Locker" was offered in sizes to fit all of the Timken rears in the 1940's. I have one for an F-5, and one for an F-6 in my collection. A guy once offered me one for an F-2/3, so I know they did exist. Good luck finding one today.
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Old Apr 3, 2014 | 10:02 PM
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I'll be! Here's the ad for the Detroit Locker in the 1952 Hildy's Blue Book. Since I'm doing this on the iphone I'm not sure if the Note is readable at the bottom of the ad. It says: "The Q Series NoSPIN Differentials will be available soon for use in driving axles of Ford passenger cars used for commercial purposes only, and for Ford F-1, F-2, F-3 light weight commercial vehicles." I guess I've got something else to look for now too. Thanks Chuck. Stu

 
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Old Apr 4, 2014 | 09:20 PM
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Good job-now the simple matter of going to Autozone and picking one up!

Seriously, this is encouraging. I"ll do a few searches tonight for kicks and giggles and see if anything shows up with new search terms. Not expecting much.

As a side note, does anyone know or understand the relationship between Timken / Rockwell /Detroit? Are they related?
 
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Your axle is a Timken 51540 semi-floating, I believe. The Ford F2-F3s used a Timken 51524 full-floating axle. Are you sure the carrier is the same?
 
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Old Apr 5, 2014 | 10:42 AM
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As mentioned earlier, I don't know what, if any parts interchange between the various applications, I'm just trying to educate myself and find out what the options are before discarding it.

Since I started this thread I purchased a Dana 60 with the 5 on 5.5 bolt pattern that will fit the ******. I'm still holding to the Timken hoping that I can find a limited slip or locker...
 
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I know this is an older thread but I thought it would be good to add some info here that maybe helpful. Here is some application info from a Thornton NoSpin manual. I believe when Detroit Automotive Products took over they kept the same part numbers. I spoke to a gentleman today that works for an old time truck aftermarket parts company who said that the 10G3 part number that is in Stu's 1952 Hildy's Blue Book was good up into the late 80s.
 
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