Ford's "new" oil recommendations
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07-05-2003, 10:42 PM
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07-06-2003, 12:27 AM
Ford's "new" oil recommendations
Yea check out the link broncobasher posted.Now who makes the motorcraft oil???? BTW I ran castrol 20w50 in a 4x4 Nissan,last I checked the guy who bought it from me has 250K on it.He can break brass ***** in a sand box with a rubber hammer but that little 4 banger is still going.
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07-06-2003, 12:42 AM
Ford's "new" oil recommendations
In my old truck I used 20W50 in hot weather. If I used less I had no oil pressure ( indicated ) in hot idle whilst off roading. THe truck had a 351M and this is typical for high milage engines. Last summer I drove it Seattle to Buffalo and back with the camper on the back with no pressure probs
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07-06-2003, 04:15 PM
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This thread really proves what I tell my friends when we argue about oil.
Your vehicle is much more tolerant than you are.
People run thin, thick, etc.. It doesn't matter.. Just keep it clean and free of foreign fluids, and be amazed at the longevity.
My diesel bug requires CH rated synthetic diesel oil. I saw a guy posting about how he uses Pennzoil dinolube in it.
!!! Everyone jumped on the guy like he is nuts, and his engine will die instantly.
He then went on to mention how he's been doing it for 150k miles and changing it at 3k intervals.
I imagine it's worse in a way, than using synthetic like you're supposed to (espeically since diesels produce soot, and this car has a turbo)
BUT, it taught me that it is not as BAD as people think, to blatantly disregard OEM instructions.
Thus, I imagine 5w20 Motorcraft will not degrade your engine life SO much, that you can put a finger on it as the ONLY contributing cause to engine failure (and I'm guessing Ford's lawyers are banking on that as well)
This is my opinion only: I will continue to use 10w30 in my truck. Summer and winter.
Though, I MIGHT be persuaded now to use 5w20 in the winter here, knowing it won't hurt anything.
Your vehicle is much more tolerant than you are.
People run thin, thick, etc.. It doesn't matter.. Just keep it clean and free of foreign fluids, and be amazed at the longevity.
My diesel bug requires CH rated synthetic diesel oil. I saw a guy posting about how he uses Pennzoil dinolube in it.
!!! Everyone jumped on the guy like he is nuts, and his engine will die instantly.
He then went on to mention how he's been doing it for 150k miles and changing it at 3k intervals.
I imagine it's worse in a way, than using synthetic like you're supposed to (espeically since diesels produce soot, and this car has a turbo)
BUT, it taught me that it is not as BAD as people think, to blatantly disregard OEM instructions.
Thus, I imagine 5w20 Motorcraft will not degrade your engine life SO much, that you can put a finger on it as the ONLY contributing cause to engine failure
(and I'm guessing Ford's lawyers are banking on that as well)This is my opinion only: I will continue to use 10w30 in my truck. Summer and winter.
Though, I MIGHT be persuaded now to use 5w20 in the winter here, knowing it won't hurt anything.
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Ford's "new" oil recommendations
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#26
07-07-2003, 02:16 PM
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Ford's "new" oil recommendations
I run 20W50 in my F-150 in the Summer and drop to a 10W40 in the Winter...this is mainly due to my slight leak from my rear main. I do use Restore with each change now and have far less oil leakage.
It is not like it gets super cold in Houston but the slightly thinner oil is better for start ups when the temps are cooler.
Heck my WRX is made for 5W30 and that is what I still run in it, and plan to until it explodes.
My input...
It is not like it gets super cold in Houston but the slightly thinner oil is better for start ups when the temps are cooler.
Heck my WRX is made for 5W30 and that is what I still run in it, and plan to until it explodes.
My input...
#27
07-07-2003, 05:13 PM
Ford's "new" oil recommendations
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I've never seen a factory sticker specifying oil weight, but the owner's manual (p. 243 in the '92 Bronco manual) shows a small portion of the same diagram as the Haynes manual in Ch. 1, which shows that oil viscosity isn't specific to an engine size or manufacturer, but to climate (temperature). In Detroit (where they write the owner's manual), the climate dictates lower weights to keep the oil flowing at the low temperatures they get. In the South, the temperature is MUCH higher year-round, so we need heavier oil to maintain the film between the bearings. If you consult the chart, you'll see that for temperatures constantly above 20°F, 20W50 is the correct weight. During the winter, if lower temps are expected, 10W30 or 10W40 is correct - you don't have to stay with one weight year-round.
I've never seen a factory sticker specifying oil weight, but the owner's manual (p. 243 in the '92 Bronco manual) shows a small portion of the same diagram as the Haynes manual in Ch. 1, which shows that oil viscosity isn't specific to an engine size or manufacturer, but to climate (temperature). In Detroit (where they write the owner's manual), the climate dictates lower weights to keep the oil flowing at the low temperatures they get. In the South, the temperature is MUCH higher year-round, so we need heavier oil to maintain the film between the bearings. If you consult the chart, you'll see that for temperatures constantly above 20°F, 20W50 is the correct weight. During the winter, if lower temps are expected, 10W30 or 10W40 is correct - you don't have to stay with one weight year-round.
#28
08-31-2017, 09:40 AM
The Ford Fleet web site has a tech service bulletin on oil viscosity. Ford recommends 5W-20 on 1993-2002 model F-150s. I attached the piece here. Have any of you made this switch?
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Article No.02-1-9
ENGINE - ENGINE OIL - RECOMMENDED APPLICATIONS FOR SAE 5W-20 AND SAE 5W-30 MOTOR OILS - GASOLINE AND FLEXIBLE FUEL VEHICLES ONLY
Publication Date: JANUARY 14, 2002
FORD: 1992-2002 CROWN VICTORIA
1993-94 TEMPO
1993-97 THUNDERBIRD
1993-2002 ESCORT, MUSTANG, TAURUS
1995-2000 CONTOUR
1998-2002 ESCORT ZX2
2000-2002 FOCUS
1993-96 BRONCO
1993-97 AEROSTAR
1993-2002 E SERIES, F-150, RANGER
1995-2002 WINDSTAR
1997-99 F-250 LD
1997-2001 EXPLORER
1997-2002 EXPEDITION
1999-2002 SUPER DUTY F SERIES, SUPER DUTY F-53 STRIPPED CHAS.
2000-2002 EXCURSION
2001-2002 ESCAPE
LINCOLN: 1991-2002 TOWN CAR
1993-98 MARK VIII
1993-2002 CONTINENTAL
2000-2002 LS
1998-2002 NAVIGATOR
MERCURY: 1992-2002 GRAND MARQUIS
1993-94 TOPAZ
1993-97 COUGAR
1993-99 TRACER
1993-2002 SABLE
1995-2000 MYSTIQUE
1999-2002 COUGAR
1997-2001 MOUNTAINEER
This article is being republished in its entirety to update the vehicle models, engines and years affected.
NOTE: PLEASE REFER TO THE VEHICLE APPLICATION LIST LATER IN THIS TSB FOR A COMPLETE LIST OF VEHICLES AFFECTED BY THIS TSB.
ISSUE:
Ford Motor Company now recommends SAE 5W-20 viscosity grade for servicing most gasoline and flexible fueled vehicles.
ACTION:
All 2001 and 2002 vehicles where SAE 5W-20 is specified should be serviced at the recommended oil change intervals using SAE 5W-20. This oil is an improved formulation to improve fuel economy. Testing has validated this viscosity grade can be used in many previous model year vehicles. It is recommended ALL vehicles on the following Vehicle Application Listing be service with SAE 5W-20.
All 2001-2002 vehicles other than those listed in the "Exception 2001 Vehicles" or "Exception 2002 Vehicles" chart are being filled with SAE 5W-20 motor oil at the factory and should also be serviced with SAE 5W-20 oil.
Vehicle Application Listing Approved For SAE 5W-20 Motor Oil
1993-1996 1.9L Escort/Tracer
1995-2000 2.0L Zetec Contour/Mystique
1999-2002 2.0L Cougar
1997-2002 2.0L Escort/Tracer
1998-2002 2.0L Escort ZX2
2000-2002 2.0L Focus
2001-2002 2.0L Escape
1993-1997 2.3L Ranger
1993-1994 2.3L Mustang
1993-1994 2.3L Tempo/Topaz
1998-2001 2.5L Ranger
1995-2000 2.5L Contour/Mystique
1999-2002 2.5L Cougar
2001-2002 3.0L 4V Escape
1996-2001 3.0L 4V Taurus/Sable
1993-2002 3.0L (Vulcan) Aerostar/Ranger, Taurus/Sable (Flexible Fuel and Gas)
1995-2000 3.0L (Vulcan) Windstar
1993-1994 3.0L (Vulcan) Tempo/Topaz
2000-2002 3.0L 4V Lincoln LS
1995-2002 3.8L Windstar
1993-1997 3.8L Taurus/Sable, Thunderbird/Cougar, Continental
1994-2002 3.8L Mustang
2002-2002 3.9L 4V Lincoln LS
1997-2002 4.2L (SPI) F-150 (under 8500 GVW only), E-Series
1996-2002 4.6L 2V Mustang
1992-2002 4.6L Crown Victoria/Grand Marquis
1991-2002 4.6L Town Car
1994-1997 4.6L 2V Thunderbird/Cougar
1996-2002 4.6L 4V Mustang Cobra
1995-2002 4.6L 4V Continental
1993-1998 4.6L 4V Mark VIII
1997-2002 4.6L 2V Triton F-150/250 (under 8500 GVW only), E-Series, Expedition
1993-1999 4.9L E-Series, F-Series
1993-1995 5.0L Mustang/Mustang Cobra
1993-1993 5.0L Thunderbird/Cougar
1997-2001 5.0L Explorer/Mountaineer
1993-1996 5.0L E-Series, F-Series, Bronco
2000-2002 5.4L Excursion
1998-2002 5.4L 2V/4V Navigator
1997-2002 5.4L 2V F-150/250 (under 8500 GVW only), Expedition, E-Series, E-350 Chassis/RV/Cutaway
1993-1997 5.8L F-Series, Bronco
1993-1996 5.8L E-Series
2000-2002 6.8L Excursion
1997-2002 6.8L E-Series, E-350 Chassis/RV/Cutaway
1999-2002 6.8L Super Duty F-Series 250 HD/350/450/550 Motorhome
1993-1998 7.5L All Vehicles
NOTE: FOR 1993 THROUGH 1998 MODEL YEAR FFV USE XO-10W30-FFV.
NOTE: THE "EXCEPTION 2001-2002 VEHICLES" SHOULD BE SERVICED WITH SAE 5W-30 MOTOR OIL.
Exception 2001 Vehicles
Engine Vehicle
3.3L Villager
3.9L Lincoln LS
4.0L Ranger, Explorer/Mountaineer, Explorer Sport, and Explorer Sport Trac
Exception 2002 Vehicles
Engine Vehicle
2.0L HP Zetec SVT Focus
3.3L Villager
4.0L Ranger, Explorer/Mountaineer, Explorer Sport, and Explorer Sport Trac
NOTE: IF VEHICLE IS NOT LISTED IN THIS APPLICATION, SAE 5W-30 OIL IS RECOMMENDED. REFER TO TSB 99-8-16.
PART NUMBER PART NAME
XO-5W20-QSP SAE 5W-20 Motor Oil - Quart (USA)
CXO-5W20-LSP12 SAE 5W-20 Motor Oil - Litre (Canada)
XO-5W20-5QSP SAE 5W-20 Motor Oil - 5 Quart Jug (USA)
XO-5W20-DSP SAE 5W-20 Motor Oil - 55 Gallon Drum (USA)
CXO-5W20-DBSP SAE 5W-20 Motor Oil - 205 Litre Drum (Canada)
--------------------------
Article No.02-1-9
ENGINE - ENGINE OIL - RECOMMENDED APPLICATIONS FOR SAE 5W-20 AND SAE 5W-30 MOTOR OILS - GASOLINE AND FLEXIBLE FUEL VEHICLES ONLY
Publication Date: JANUARY 14, 2002
FORD: 1992-2002 CROWN VICTORIA
1993-94 TEMPO
1993-97 THUNDERBIRD
1993-2002 ESCORT, MUSTANG, TAURUS
1995-2000 CONTOUR
1998-2002 ESCORT ZX2
2000-2002 FOCUS
1993-96 BRONCO
1993-97 AEROSTAR
1993-2002 E SERIES, F-150, RANGER
1995-2002 WINDSTAR
1997-99 F-250 LD
1997-2001 EXPLORER
1997-2002 EXPEDITION
1999-2002 SUPER DUTY F SERIES, SUPER DUTY F-53 STRIPPED CHAS.
2000-2002 EXCURSION
2001-2002 ESCAPE
LINCOLN: 1991-2002 TOWN CAR
1993-98 MARK VIII
1993-2002 CONTINENTAL
2000-2002 LS
1998-2002 NAVIGATOR
MERCURY: 1992-2002 GRAND MARQUIS
1993-94 TOPAZ
1993-97 COUGAR
1993-99 TRACER
1993-2002 SABLE
1995-2000 MYSTIQUE
1999-2002 COUGAR
1997-2001 MOUNTAINEER
This article is being republished in its entirety to update the vehicle models, engines and years affected.
NOTE: PLEASE REFER TO THE VEHICLE APPLICATION LIST LATER IN THIS TSB FOR A COMPLETE LIST OF VEHICLES AFFECTED BY THIS TSB.
ISSUE:
Ford Motor Company now recommends SAE 5W-20 viscosity grade for servicing most gasoline and flexible fueled vehicles.
ACTION:
All 2001 and 2002 vehicles where SAE 5W-20 is specified should be serviced at the recommended oil change intervals using SAE 5W-20. This oil is an improved formulation to improve fuel economy. Testing has validated this viscosity grade can be used in many previous model year vehicles. It is recommended ALL vehicles on the following Vehicle Application Listing be service with SAE 5W-20.
All 2001-2002 vehicles other than those listed in the "Exception 2001 Vehicles" or "Exception 2002 Vehicles" chart are being filled with SAE 5W-20 motor oil at the factory and should also be serviced with SAE 5W-20 oil.
Vehicle Application Listing Approved For SAE 5W-20 Motor Oil
1993-1996 1.9L Escort/Tracer
1995-2000 2.0L Zetec Contour/Mystique
1999-2002 2.0L Cougar
1997-2002 2.0L Escort/Tracer
1998-2002 2.0L Escort ZX2
2000-2002 2.0L Focus
2001-2002 2.0L Escape
1993-1997 2.3L Ranger
1993-1994 2.3L Mustang
1993-1994 2.3L Tempo/Topaz
1998-2001 2.5L Ranger
1995-2000 2.5L Contour/Mystique
1999-2002 2.5L Cougar
2001-2002 3.0L 4V Escape
1996-2001 3.0L 4V Taurus/Sable
1993-2002 3.0L (Vulcan) Aerostar/Ranger, Taurus/Sable (Flexible Fuel and Gas)
1995-2000 3.0L (Vulcan) Windstar
1993-1994 3.0L (Vulcan) Tempo/Topaz
2000-2002 3.0L 4V Lincoln LS
1995-2002 3.8L Windstar
1993-1997 3.8L Taurus/Sable, Thunderbird/Cougar, Continental
1994-2002 3.8L Mustang
2002-2002 3.9L 4V Lincoln LS
1997-2002 4.2L (SPI) F-150 (under 8500 GVW only), E-Series
1996-2002 4.6L 2V Mustang
1992-2002 4.6L Crown Victoria/Grand Marquis
1991-2002 4.6L Town Car
1994-1997 4.6L 2V Thunderbird/Cougar
1996-2002 4.6L 4V Mustang Cobra
1995-2002 4.6L 4V Continental
1993-1998 4.6L 4V Mark VIII
1997-2002 4.6L 2V Triton F-150/250 (under 8500 GVW only), E-Series, Expedition
1993-1999 4.9L E-Series, F-Series
1993-1995 5.0L Mustang/Mustang Cobra
1993-1993 5.0L Thunderbird/Cougar
1997-2001 5.0L Explorer/Mountaineer
1993-1996 5.0L E-Series, F-Series, Bronco
2000-2002 5.4L Excursion
1998-2002 5.4L 2V/4V Navigator
1997-2002 5.4L 2V F-150/250 (under 8500 GVW only), Expedition, E-Series, E-350 Chassis/RV/Cutaway
1993-1997 5.8L F-Series, Bronco
1993-1996 5.8L E-Series
2000-2002 6.8L Excursion
1997-2002 6.8L E-Series, E-350 Chassis/RV/Cutaway
1999-2002 6.8L Super Duty F-Series 250 HD/350/450/550 Motorhome
1993-1998 7.5L All Vehicles
NOTE: FOR 1993 THROUGH 1998 MODEL YEAR FFV USE XO-10W30-FFV.
NOTE: THE "EXCEPTION 2001-2002 VEHICLES" SHOULD BE SERVICED WITH SAE 5W-30 MOTOR OIL.
Exception 2001 Vehicles
Engine Vehicle
3.3L Villager
3.9L Lincoln LS
4.0L Ranger, Explorer/Mountaineer, Explorer Sport, and Explorer Sport Trac
Exception 2002 Vehicles
Engine Vehicle
2.0L HP Zetec SVT Focus
3.3L Villager
4.0L Ranger, Explorer/Mountaineer, Explorer Sport, and Explorer Sport Trac
NOTE: IF VEHICLE IS NOT LISTED IN THIS APPLICATION, SAE 5W-30 OIL IS RECOMMENDED. REFER TO TSB 99-8-16.
PART NUMBER PART NAME
XO-5W20-QSP SAE 5W-20 Motor Oil - Quart (USA)
CXO-5W20-LSP12 SAE 5W-20 Motor Oil - Litre (Canada)
XO-5W20-5QSP SAE 5W-20 Motor Oil - 5 Quart Jug (USA)
XO-5W20-DSP SAE 5W-20 Motor Oil - 55 Gallon Drum (USA)
CXO-5W20-DBSP SAE 5W-20 Motor Oil - 205 Litre Drum (Canada)
#29
08-31-2017, 10:57 AM
Man, the last time someone posted in this thread was 14 years ago, and I was only 11 years old
But to answer your question everyone I know has never used anything but 10w-30 in every 99 and older vehicle they have owned.
#30
08-31-2017, 11:04 AM
I thought it would be funny to bring it back from the dead because I doubt many people actually followed the official TSB, but if somebody did, I would legitimately be interested in their experience.