Standard, Super, and Crew cab frame differences?
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Standard, Super, and Crew cab frame differences?
Havent had much luck searching this question out. A friend from another site told me to give it a shot here.
Im trying to find out if the front frame section, IE from the first cab mount forward to the frame horns, are the same between the 3 types of cabs.
I cant see them being any different considering the suspension mounts and engine crossmember must be the same between the cab models. Am I correct in assuming so?
Appreciate the help.
Im trying to find out if the front frame section, IE from the first cab mount forward to the frame horns, are the same between the 3 types of cabs.
I cant see them being any different considering the suspension mounts and engine crossmember must be the same between the cab models. Am I correct in assuming so?
Appreciate the help.
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Not really sure. But I will say this. The only thing that I could see making any difference at all would be engine choice and whether the 2 sections are both 2wd vs. 4wd. As long as they are both say 2wd with the same engine choice I'd say yes they should be the same. One thing to remember is that with the 09-14 style trucks there were 7 engine choices available. And I'm not quite sure how each choice may have affected the frame design and tolerances between each choice. I know that with the super duty and excursion trucks the front frame modules (which is what you are asking about) differ between the Gas and Diesel engine options. And I've been told that say 6.0 won't fit in a frame designed for say a 6.4 or 7.3 and so on. As they each are different.
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I figured this was about an F150. I was just using the Super duty and Excursions as examples of what exactly I was trying to say. I'm not certain if there are differences given the different engine choices. I was just say that's something you will want to check for. I am curious though as to why you wanted or needed to know this info. There are specific points on these frames of where Ford wants them to be sectioned at. That's what it sounds like your asking about. If sectioning can't be done in these locations and by Fords guidelines then frame replacement is to be preformed. And your local Ford parts dept. should be able to help answer your questions better if your not getting the info you're looking for.
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frame from the firewall forward is the same between all the 09-14 F-150's
the differences between reg cab, SCAB, and SuperCrew start at the drivers B pillar.
why are you asking?
reference for that please
5.4, 6.0, 6.8, 7.3 all bolt in the 99-07 F-250/Excursion with zero modifications needed besides bolting the correct motor mount and using correct transmission. heck, there are a few guys that've swapped in 6.7 and 6.4 motors into 99-07 models without zero frame mods as well beside some firewall massaging
so not sure how what you're talking about would hold true. the only difference between a gas and PSD Superduty/Excursion is the front leafs
the differences between reg cab, SCAB, and SuperCrew start at the drivers B pillar.
why are you asking?
I know that with the super duty and excursion trucks the front frame modules (which is what you are asking about) differ between the Gas and Diesel engine options. And I've been told that say 6.0 won't fit in a frame designed for say a 6.4 or 7.3 and so on. As they each are different.
5.4, 6.0, 6.8, 7.3 all bolt in the 99-07 F-250/Excursion with zero modifications needed besides bolting the correct motor mount and using correct transmission. heck, there are a few guys that've swapped in 6.7 and 6.4 motors into 99-07 models without zero frame mods as well beside some firewall massaging
so not sure how what you're talking about would hold true. the only difference between a gas and PSD Superduty/Excursion is the front leafs
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I figured this was about an F150. I was just using the Super duty and Excursions as examples of what exactly I was trying to say. I'm not certain if there are differences given the different engine choices. I was just say that's something you will want to check for. I am curious though as to why you wanted or needed to know this info. There are specific points on these frames of where Ford wants them to be sectioned at. That's what it sounds like your asking about. If sectioning can't be done in these locations and by Fords guidelines then frame replacement is to be preformed. And your local Ford parts dept. should be able to help answer your questions better if your not getting the info you're looking for.
But yes that is my intent.
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frame from the firewall forward is the same between all the 09-14 F-150's
the differences between reg cab, SCAB, and SuperCrew start at the drivers B pillar.
why are you asking?
reference for that please
5.4, 6.0, 6.8, 7.3 all bolt in the 99-07 F-250/Excursion with zero modifications needed besides bolting the correct motor mount and using correct transmission. heck, there are a few guys that've swapped in 6.7 and 6.4 motors into 99-07 models without zero frame mods as well beside some firewall massaging
so not sure how what you're talking about would hold true. the only difference between a gas and PSD Superduty/Excursion is the front leafs
the differences between reg cab, SCAB, and SuperCrew start at the drivers B pillar.
why are you asking?
reference for that please
5.4, 6.0, 6.8, 7.3 all bolt in the 99-07 F-250/Excursion with zero modifications needed besides bolting the correct motor mount and using correct transmission. heck, there are a few guys that've swapped in 6.7 and 6.4 motors into 99-07 models without zero frame mods as well beside some firewall massaging
so not sure how what you're talking about would hold true. the only difference between a gas and PSD Superduty/Excursion is the front leafs
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