Ford Lightning clone
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Ford Lightning clone
Sold my 2003 dodge twin turbo with the intent of not buying another truck, but when i found my high school truck for cheap i couldn't pass it up. $1200 1995 ford f250 5 speed 5.8 with 288xxx miles on it and everything work. lol
also picked up some lightning hardware.
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also picked up some lightning hardware.
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Sweet! Can't wait to see the transformation. One word of advice, if you put that 75mm throttle body on your truck with just the lightning intake and headers, you are going to lose a noticeable amount of low end torque. You will need heads and a cam to keep up with that large of a bore.
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Nope.. sorry that is completely false. A single 75mm TB has almost the exact same total volume as the stock twin 52mm throttlebodies, and although the GT40 intake flows better than the stock 5.8 intake the stock heads on this motor are the big limiting factor so these intake parts alone won't make much difference in power positive or negative.
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And those "headers" aren't doing you any favors. They are crimped down pretty good at the flange for the bolts. You'd be better off to buy a decent set of longtubes.
You'd benefit from at least 1.7 rockers, and better flowing heads.
You'd benefit from at least 1.7 rockers, and better flowing heads.
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Sweet! Can't wait to see the transformation. One word of advice, if you put that 75mm throttle body on your truck with just the lightning intake and headers, you are going to lose a noticeable amount of low end torque. You will need heads and a cam to keep up with that large of a bore.
Nope.. sorry that is completely false. A single 75mm TB has almost the exact same total volume as the stock twin 52mm throttlebodies, and although the GT40 intake flows better than the stock 5.8 intake the stock heads on this motor are the big limiting factor so these intake parts alone won't make much difference in power positive or negative.
I have been looking at superchargers but not settled on it yet. Deffintatly gonna do a cervni hood and ram air setup from them.
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Yeah, grab the heads, do some home porting (pull valves and focus on all the mismatch and ugliness) then at a minimum lap the valves into the seat to lean it up and seal better. If you aren't reaching for the sky for power output, and valves look questionable, get some bigger valves added. Gets costly if you don't know a guy.
Cool project potential. Keep going on it and keep is updated.
Cool project potential. Keep going on it and keep is updated.
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Yeah, grab the heads, do some home porting (pull valves and focus on all the mismatch and ugliness) then at a minimum lap the valves into the seat to lean it up and seal better. If you aren't reaching for the sky for power output, and valves look questionable, get some bigger valves added. Gets costly if you don't know a guy.
Cool project potential. Keep going on it and keep is updated.
Cool project potential. Keep going on it and keep is updated.
I have a local machine shop guy that is great and reasonably priced to get them heads worked on
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Just the upper and lower intake for 300 was a deal. Then you got the 75mm tb and egr spacer. I think you scored well.
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Yes i got it will all you see I got all of the lightning parts for $300 and 2 40 series flowmasters
I was super excited when he said $300 for all that then he said $300 for the heads and $1000 for the short block But the block had a eagle crank anf some different pistons i can't remeber it all.
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No don't do that it's a terrible cam for a truck and not even close to being compatible with the stock truck EFI system. If you want to go that radical you need a MAF conversion and much better head first.
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my plans are to do a mass air conversion and heads when i do the cam its more of a ride around truck than anything plus I already own the cam
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I still say sell it, you want a cam with no more than 210-212 deg duration on the intake side at 0.050" to maintain some semblance of lowend torque in a heavy vehicle like this. Just to give you an example the stock Mustang HO cam was a popular low budget swap into Lightnings back in the day, that cam only has 211 deg duration at 50 thou but still guys recommended it be advanced 2-4 degrees just to maintain stock lowend grunt. And to top it all off the truck you're starting with is probably 1000lbs heavier than a lightning.
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The E-cam was never really popular with the Lightning crowd because you still needed a mass air swap and an aftermarket converter with a higher stall speed to really get any benefit out of it. Being that yours is a manual, you will like it a lot less.
It's been a while since I've done Lightning intake swap on an F-Series, but I think you will need a different throttle cable and bracket.
It's been a while since I've done Lightning intake swap on an F-Series, but I think you will need a different throttle cable and bracket.
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I still say sell it, you want a cam with no more than 210-212 deg duration on the intake side at 0.050" to maintain some semblance of lowend torque in a heavy vehicle like this. Just to give you an example the stock Mustang HO cam was a popular low budget swap into Lightnings back in the day, that cam only has 211 deg duration at 50 thou but still guys recommended it be advanced 2-4 degrees just to maintain stock lowend grunt. And to top it all off the truck you're starting with is probably 1000lbs heavier than a lightning.
The E-cam was never really popular with the Lightning crowd because you still needed a mass air swap and an aftermarket converter with a higher stall speed to really get any benefit out of it. Being that yours is a manual, you will like it a lot less.
It's been a while since I've done Lightning intake swap on an F-Series, but I think you will need a different throttle cable and bracket.
It's been a while since I've done Lightning intake swap on an F-Series, but I think you will need a different throttle cable and bracket.
I have drove a manual mustang with that cam in it.
I am wondering what is yalls thought on running bigger fuel rails,and bigger injectors if so what size ? 24lbs? 42lbs? I also plan to run a bbk fuel pressure regulator
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Well I am still gonna run it anyways. I have already found several truck running them.
I will have to look when i get home on the brackets i may have them as well
I have drove a manual mustang with that cam in it.
I am wondering what is yalls thought on running bigger fuel rails,and bigger injectors if so what size ? 24lbs? 42lbs? I also plan to run a bbk fuel pressure regulator
I will have to look when i get home on the brackets i may have them as well
I have drove a manual mustang with that cam in it.
I am wondering what is yalls thought on running bigger fuel rails,and bigger injectors if so what size ? 24lbs? 42lbs? I also plan to run a bbk fuel pressure regulator
As far as what injectors, if you're only going to run gt40 heads, you only need 24lb injectors. Even if you did a stroker kit.
If you are smoking some good stuff, and think you're going to persue forced induction, you'll need 42s. But before any of that stuff, you'll need mass air and a programmable chip like quarterhorse or tweecer.
You don't "need" a fuel pressure regulator. It can help sometimes, my 460 loves extra pressure. But you gotta test it and log the air fuel ratio.
You don't need bigger fuel rails til you're above 450-500 hp.