Will performance chips help the bugs?
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Will performance chips help the bugs?
Hello,
I was wondering if you put a performance chip in the 6.0 if it would overide the bugs that the stock computer seems to have. They say it changes the injector timing and shift points of the transmission. That seems like were alot of the problems are. What is your thoughts?
Thanks Chad
I was wondering if you put a performance chip in the 6.0 if it would overide the bugs that the stock computer seems to have. They say it changes the injector timing and shift points of the transmission. That seems like were alot of the problems are. What is your thoughts?
Thanks Chad
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A performance chip might be capable of fixing many of your problems. They would probably take away the split shot setup that you have now, and make it a single shot while cranking up the ICP. This will make the truck very noise, (and fail emissions but i doubt you care), but could potential fix the idle issues and possibly the power losses. As for the injector failures it might or might not. The oil leaking out of the crankcase is another matter.
As for the shift points this engine was designed to really rev, it is more than capable of making good power at the upper RPMs, like 3800. Basically never shift the thing below 2400.
As for the shift points this engine was designed to really rev, it is more than capable of making good power at the upper RPMs, like 3800. Basically never shift the thing below 2400.
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If I were having problems with a 6.0L as some claim they have I definitely would not put a performance chip in it as I am sure some dealers would void your warranty for it.
Greg
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Hey Tennessee.....You seem to be pleased with ur 6.0 Powerstroke. How many miles are on your truck and have you had any problems to speak of????
I do agree that if you put a chip in you may just be giving Ford a way out and an excuse not to fix ur problems. I myself have had no problems and love the truck.
I do agree that if you put a chip in you may just be giving Ford a way out and an excuse not to fix ur problems. I myself have had no problems and love the truck.
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Will performance chips help the bugs?
At this point there aren't any chips for the 6.0l (nor will there be any because it doesn't have a port for one). Several companies are working on programmers but no one has released on yet.
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Hate to argue with the webmaster, but you're wrong about no chips on the market for the 6.0 psd. There are no programmers on the market yet and Hypertech says it will be a long time before they are ready to go to market with one.
The 6.0 chips or piggyback or inline modules that are offered are a little more expensive than they should be. Best price I've seen so far is $575 plus S&H. I'm going to wait for a while before I put one on because you just don't know if you're looking at potential engine damage from a new product. Let them get the bugs out first.
As far as voiding your warranty, the answer is YES but only if they see it. There doesn't appear to be anything in the result codes that would flag the service tech one was ever installed. I could be wrong about that though, so don't get too comfortable with my advice. I can tell you from personal experience that the warrarnty will be voided if they figure out it was there.
The 6.0 chips or piggyback or inline modules that are offered are a little more expensive than they should be. Best price I've seen so far is $575 plus S&H. I'm going to wait for a while before I put one on because you just don't know if you're looking at potential engine damage from a new product. Let them get the bugs out first.
As far as voiding your warranty, the answer is YES but only if they see it. There doesn't appear to be anything in the result codes that would flag the service tech one was ever installed. I could be wrong about that though, so don't get too comfortable with my advice. I can tell you from personal experience that the warrarnty will be voided if they figure out it was there.
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You're wong, perhaps due to misinformation as to what these devices really are.
The modules you're talking about aren't chips. Chips reprogram the PCM, the modules don't. We've sold a module for the 6.0L since February and a 60/80 switch module for about 2 months (and ours has your best price beat by about $10). Basically, these devices work the same as Power Puck on the Cummins diesel or an Edge box on a 7.3L Powerstroke: they bump up the fuel curve.
Chips are devices that override the computer's on-board ROM. Programmers are devices that reprogram the on-board ROM. Inline modules are devices that intercept signals on the bus and re-write them. There's confusion between that and true chips/programmers because the companies that make them want the confusion (it helps their sales).
The modules you're talking about aren't chips. Chips reprogram the PCM, the modules don't. We've sold a module for the 6.0L since February and a 60/80 switch module for about 2 months (and ours has your best price beat by about $10). Basically, these devices work the same as Power Puck on the Cummins diesel or an Edge box on a 7.3L Powerstroke: they bump up the fuel curve.
Chips are devices that override the computer's on-board ROM. Programmers are devices that reprogram the on-board ROM. Inline modules are devices that intercept signals on the bus and re-write them. There's confusion between that and true chips/programmers because the companies that make them want the confusion (it helps their sales).
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Well, gosh. I think carp1 was interested in power enhancing products, regardless of the semantics but thank you for the lesson.
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Will performance chips help the bugs?
Jmitch12,
The only way I could be happier is to boost the hp by about 100 hp and keep the factory warranty. Just got back from the Smokey Mountains and it will pull any grade faster than I want to with 10,000 lbs behind it and then slow it down so much with tow haul mode you have to give it the throttle to speed up going downhill. I have no problems with mine except the rear tires. I don't think they will last as long the the rear tires on a 7.3l truck.
Greg
The only way I could be happier is to boost the hp by about 100 hp and keep the factory warranty. Just got back from the Smokey Mountains and it will pull any grade faster than I want to with 10,000 lbs behind it and then slow it down so much with tow haul mode you have to give it the throttle to speed up going downhill. I have no problems with mine except the rear tires. I don't think they will last as long the the rear tires on a 7.3l truck.
Greg
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Debug,
Mine is stock with no engine enhancements. I plan on keeping it that way with all the "horror stories" out there on the 6.0l. I did talk to 2 other owners of 6.0l trucks at a campground this week we were staying in. Both of these owners said there trucks had been flawless and didn't have the first problem. Kind of makes you wonder if the problems are really there.
Greg
Mine is stock with no engine enhancements. I plan on keeping it that way with all the "horror stories" out there on the 6.0l. I did talk to 2 other owners of 6.0l trucks at a campground this week we were staying in. Both of these owners said there trucks had been flawless and didn't have the first problem. Kind of makes you wonder if the problems are really there.
Greg
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Will performance chips help the bugs?
Tennesseepowerstroke, I have had no problems yet either. Build date 11/02. Just returned from a 850 mile road trip and rolled over 3000 miles but starting to lose my eyesight with that damn oil stick. I'm paranoid of an injector leak but have nothing to complain about at this time. Absolutely love this truck.