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Old Mar 8, 2014 | 12:57 AM
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Bad injector cup

I drove from school wvu back home today and the truck ran fine. i hopped in it later that night and it was pouring out white smoke even though the truck was still warm the whole way pouring out smoke. i did a little bit of searching and it sounds like a bad injector cup. It doesnt run ruff or loss in power but there is a change in the sound from the exhaust. I also saw that if you smell sweet exhaust that means coolant. What else could cause this? also what could i test to determine this is the issue?

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Old Mar 8, 2014 | 08:13 AM
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On my brothers 7.3 Superduty, when it started spewing white smoke with no loss of power it was a bad injector, or that is what the dealership said. LOL Anyway they replaced 1 injector and it was good to go. Do you have a way to do a buzz test and a cylinder contribution test? I was told that a cracked injector cup results with fuel in the coolant.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2014 | 10:12 AM
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My buddy may or may not still have his cool guy scanner. IWould I be able to see fuel in like the coolant reservoir if it is a cracked sleeve.

Truck has 311,000 I believe I have one replaced injector. When I did o rings last year I had a newer black top colored injector.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2014 | 03:41 PM
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Thankfully I have not had to deal with a cracked injector cup yet. I would say that fuel would wind up in the degas bottle, floating on top as fuel is lighter than water.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2014 | 03:58 PM
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Well now its missing pretty bad and its chug out black smoke. I checked the coolant its clean. Im now leaning towards an injector stuck open.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2014 | 04:46 PM
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I have a very similar sounding problem... So far I have three bad glow plugs and plan to do the valve cover gaskets. I am hoping that the injectors are ok as I bought them in the last two years from Jim. I did a premium build at the time iirc

Last time I ran the truck was to move the trailer and turn it around to face the garage to start working. It smoked so much I could not see the back of the bed. It was white smoke. When I took the exhaust a part to fix a broken manifold bolt and up pipe there was a lot of unburnt fuel on everything. I started a thread "Most likely problem..."

I look forward to seeing what you come up with.

I do have a windshield leak and hope that I haven't got water in the IDM.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2014 | 07:44 PM
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I tried taking out my chip to see if it did anything. but i had my buddy hook it up to his scanner. and after the buzz test it came in that injector 8 was the problem. You could tell by just hearing the buzzs. all the others were loud where #8 was quiet. So i ordered a new injector and it will be here tomorrow so ill see what happens when i put the new one in.

Also im going to do the ccv mod. Does anyone know the part number on the o rings for it ?
 
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Old Mar 8, 2014 | 09:12 PM
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Did you check the UVCH plugs? Could just be a burnt plug. Injector might be fine.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2014 | 12:43 AM
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Did you check the UVCH plugs? Could just be a burnt plug. Injector might be fine.
I replaced them about a year ago all the wires look clean and the connections are clean. i was hopping it was that easy.
 
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Well I got the injector and we ran another buzz test to make sure it was still #8. It buzzed fine like all the others. We let it run for a little to get all thr oil flow in through and ran another buzz it came with all injectors good. Right now im taking off the valve covers and gonna in plug each injector individually and see if we can find the messing up
 
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Originally Posted by Leemakesmepee
Well I got the injector and we ran another buzz test to make sure it was still #8. It buzzed fine like all the others. We let it run for a little to get all thr oil flow in through and ran another buzz it came with all injectors good. Right now im taking off the valve covers and gonna in plug each injector individually and see if we can find the messing up
So now it buzzes ok? and still smokes a lot? My truck started normally and was doing the normal cold start smoke and then an audible click to missing and a lot of smoke. I wonder if the IPR was stuck and the pump was running really low pressure it would not vaporize the fuel enough to burn properly… Just a thought.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2014 | 12:25 PM
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Buzz checked fine. Then went through and unplugged each injector while having it running. Number 4 I believe wasn't doing anything when we pulled the it and put the new one in. It had no change. My buddy's scanner cant run a contribution test because it says my oil temp sensor is bad. But tomorrow a guy with a better scanner is gone try to clear that code and run a test.

Anyone think of anything I could try?
 
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Old Mar 9, 2014 | 01:07 PM
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You can't run a CCT til oily temp is above 160*
 
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Sounds like you may have a wiring issue
 
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Old Mar 9, 2014 | 01:55 PM
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Will it throw a code if it isnt 160?
As far as wiring all thr uvch are good. Gaskets good. No burned wires in the valley or toward the connector under the fuse box
 
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