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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 03:22 PM
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Looking at getting a dump trailer for a project on the farm this summer. We will be hauling field rock we pick in the field about 13 miles to my grandparents retirement home for landscaping. I have a 02' F250 RCLB 7.3 4X4 with 4" MBRP and a TS6 i usually run on 75hp. My grandpa has a 2013 F350 CCSB with a 6.2 gas completly stock. Both have goosenecks and 14k bumper pulls. We have been looking for a gooseneck style dump trailer but we are wondering how much we can actually tow. We are in a SW MN so its very flat but with a 14' or 16' dump with 2' sides that seems like itcould get really heavy really fast ecspecially with a 5k empty trailer. Or should we just go with a 12' bumper pull??? Anybody have a dump trailer they are running with one of these trucks? id say our towing capacity is around 12k but my grandpas truck manages to pull a 36' gooseneck with a JD 3020 and 4020 idk how but it does haha. Any input would be greatly appreciated!
 
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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 04:34 PM
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I think you biggest problem is not overloading it.
Rocks add up FAST.

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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 05:49 PM
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Before buying, check out your States laws on trailers over 10,000lb GVW. Sometimes DOT won't even give you a second look, sometimes like where I live, they will pull you over just because.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 05:55 PM
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You can always load less of something heavy in a larger trailer, but you can never load more of something lighter in a smaller trailer....

I stuffed a 20" utility trailer with 6' chainlink side walls full of mulched limbs, leaves, and lawn detritus and didn't break 10k lbs. Dump trailers are awesome for stuff like that, but volume is more important than load capacity for that kind of stuff with lots of airspace.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by dualwheels66
Before buying, check out your States laws on trailers over 10,000lb GVW. Sometimes DOT won't even give you a second look, sometimes like where I live, they will pull you over just because.
This is true. Most dual 5200lb axle trailers are rated for 9900lbs. in order to avoid being rating over 10,000lbs. which requires a CDL in most states.
I have a 12' 9900lb dump trailer and have loaded it to the point the hydraulic system won't lift the load but the trailer had no issue tracking perfectly straight.
Trailer brakes and brake controller is a must.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 07:41 PM
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Last summer I moved about 100 yds. of dirt with my 2001 F250 PSD I owned at that time. I rented a 14 ft, 14k Doolittle and then a 12 ft, 12K Load Trail, both bumper pulls. Out of curiosity I had myself weighed once with the 14 footer and I totaled about 20k pounds. The trailer was about full but not heaping, the dirt was fairly dry. It pulled very well with both trailers. As far as gooseneck vs bumper, I don't know which would be better. The higher trailers dump easier. The lower trailers you have to pull forward while dumping to get completely empty.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 09:46 PM
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14k dump trailer is the way to go. A 14' long is about right length for hauling the heavier stuff (dirt rock broke concrete). You can about fill the body to the top of the sides without busting the trailer GVW. I run bumper pulls and couldn't do without them. Have thought about goosenecks but they weigh more sorta negating any advantage. If you have something like a skid steer go for the drop axle version otherwise you'll be hating life backing the skid up the steep ramps some dark stormy night. As mentioned the drop axle dumps will drag their butt when dumping on soft ground.
Finally what was said about DOT is very true here. Dump trailers are like a magnet pulling in DOT.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by AllRightHauling
This is true. Most dual 5200lb axle trailers are rated for 9900lbs. in order to avoid being rating over 10,000lbs. which requires a CDL in most states.
I have a 12' 9900lb dump trailer and have loaded it to the point the hydraulic system won't lift the load but the trailer had no issue tracking perfectly straight.
Trailer brakes and brake controller is a must.
Sorry I just re read your post. Here 10000 GVW for commercial purposes makes you subject to CSA DOT etc but does not require a CDL. CDL doesn't kick in to 26K GCWR which can happen with some of the F350 and 14k dump trailers combinations.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by truculent
Sorry I just re read your post. Here 10000 GVW for commercial purposes makes you subject to CSA DOT etc but does not require a CDL. CDL doesn't kick in to 26K GCWR which can happen with some of the F350 and 14k dump trailers combinations.
truc,
I'm not being smart about this but just be sure to double check your state's CDL requirements when you get the '14 F-350. Ford lists the GVWR for that truck at 14,000 pounds.
A 14k pound trailer would put you in CDL requirement here in Jersey.
 
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