The 4x4 part of it. Lol

 

So are these custom parts for Dana 60 conversion?
Or are these factory parts on the F-Super now?

 

ALL 4x4 F-Superduty trucks are conversions. Ford never produced them.

Someone had these made long ago. They came off an F-SD 4x4 truck. NO idea on who converted it.

 

I know Marmon-Herrington was a big player in those conversions. They did a Pete for us at work.

Rusty

 

I know they never made them, I was asking if those adapters are found on every F-super or if that is only a F-Super 4x4 thing.
Thanks for the info.

 

all the 87-97 f-super duty (f450) are 2wd cab and chassis dually.
the rear and front wheels have 10 lugs.

so when people go to convert a f450 to 4wd they need (want) a way to convert their commonly used front donor axles from the 8 lug to 10 lug.this way they match the rear and you keep all the rims matching.since the front monobeam is already 10 lug of course to match the rear from the factory,there would be no need for any adapters.

 

Only 4x4 F-SD.... however...

This seems to be up to debate.

Quigley used Dana 70 axles with custom 10 lug dually adapters. Think factory adapters but 10 lug.

Marmon harrington used an Italian axle that was setup the same way with 10 lug dually adapters.

There was also a company called Monroe that did the conversions as well but very little info is out there on them.

It's been rumored that quigley used an 8 to 10 adapter on passenger drop Dana 60 for the conversions but no one can confirm this. And from research. The company that converted these trucks that are very tall and almost always have aluminum wheels seem to have these adapters on them.

I wish I was around at the time to really know.

 

if i was do to it (if i ever do perhaps down the road someday) i think i would go with late model ('99+) f450 axles.front and rear.
this way you get all 8 lug modern f450 axles/rims and you can simply bolt on a transfer case and have your e-brake built into the rear axle.making everything updated,proper and not be left hanging trying to search for hard to find replacement parts for rare,custom,discontinued axles etc.
plus you keep the proper axle rating front/rear (unlike swapping in a pickup d60 axle) and keep the larger/safer brake calipers etc.etc.
plus on top of this,you could ditch the extra low gearing intended to tow heavy equipment (4.63/5.13) and get into a set of 4.30's for those who don't need to tow extra heavy (just primarily haul heavy instead) can get much better economy not having the engine rev to the moon all the time.just a win/win the whole way.yes it may cost more,but if your gunna do it,nothing beats going the whole way.

 

That was my original plan. Until I saw the expense of doing that swap. To find an 8 lug. Or newer 10 lug 450 or 550 axle set. You were looking at 2500-3500 dollars. I found a rear 8 lug for cheap. But to get the front was 1500. And even then it needed rebuilt. And the components on those axles. Including f250 and F350 are not cheap. I've got 05+ axles under my 95 F250 and to rebuild one of those axles is an arm and a leg.

Not to mention you'll have to weld a track bar onto the frame. And I don't know if I'd trust the frame to hold up to 15000 pounds in an already known weak area of the frame by the steering box.

In my eyes. It wasn't worth it because then your screwed in 19.5 wheels and tires as well. Which hual great but cost a ton. I don't haul frequently enough to even merit them.

The brakes would be great. But is the added expense worth it? Especially since if your staying leaf sprung. You'll have the horrible lock out hubs or swap to a warn kit. But then the unit bearings become the weak point.

For the investment I've made to date to make mine 4x4. I'm still cheaper and all I need to buy is a driveline brake. Which is 250 bucks.

But that's my opinion.

 

darn, was hanging on to see how you dealt with the park brake, i saw one guy that went to a E350 rear diff and old school drums and parkbrake, but that negates the "SD"

 

Agreed on NOT using the 99+ axles. the 19.5s SUCK

 

i didn't know they used a larger rim (i haven't really done much research on the axles at all yet.) that's a good thing though when hauling heavy.less warping of the rim.what makes the 19.5 suck?

 

They are practically impossible to balance. And cost a fortune

 

And lack of traction. The 19.5s are SO hard they don't bite anything.

The guy I bought my 99 F550 from said his 96 F-superduty(2wd and old style cooper discover) would go MORE places than the 4wd F550 with Hankook DH01s

 

And watch the valve stems in 19.5s.
There was a recall back in the day.be very careful airing up a low one.we had a special long hose length air chuck.don't stand in front when airing.